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all right good evening I hope everybody

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had a great weekend happy UFO day world

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UFO day happy world UFO day we had an

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amazing weekend and today I tweeted it

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out I don't know if you had a chance to

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check it out but Peter tatran is in town

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from Sweden producing the band possessed

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out of San Francisco an amazing band by

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the way and he said hey I'm here

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so I woke up this morning and he goes

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hey man you know you want to come hang

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out at the studio yeah so uh jumped in

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the car went over there man and it's

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just great to walk into a recording

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studio and smell it and just amazing

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Peter and by the way he is now over at

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on stellar too as well so send him a

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friend request he would love to hear

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from all of you and there you go just a

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fun day cool day nothing like going into

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a studio now on Saturday I'm gonna talk

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about this in just a minute when we go

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live the architects of the new paradigm

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conference went down Saturday up in

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live with I didn't I what do you mean

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it turns out it was panel and it was

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about Tom DeLonge and so I have that

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that at the front of the show too as

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well so I'll explain everything is the

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best that I know it and second thing is

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too so we're gonna take two days off and

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kiss that up to the weekend I'm going

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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 here on the airport

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who has a knob been applying her has

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been found and is now in the possession

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of the RA the game is rigged change the

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quickly our differences worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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from outside this way

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and K GRA

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we need your help to get to the

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you are listening to a tee blaq with

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jimmy touch on the game changing network

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good evening fade to black

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this folk radio for the masses say yeah

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left we're live from a bunker somewhere

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in beautiful downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near

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this is fade to black for KJ's see ours

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a game-changer Network and K GRA the

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planet I'm real Jimmy Church what is

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yeah happy world UFO day all right

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well it is world UFO day and we welcome

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Joshua P Warren is here now we're gonna

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cover all things UFO sightings video

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abductions and disclosure and his recent

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that published today Fox News Fox News

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covered Joshua and the headline reads

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time warp discovered outside Las Vegas

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and there you go it's an article well

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written by the way about Joshua and his

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device that he used called the DT meter

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the differential time rate meter and

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crazy day right great story to break out

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in world UFO day with a our very own

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Joshua P Warren so we're gonna do

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great show now tomorrow night continuing

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Enki crop circles that's right okay now

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he's he's written an amazing article

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over at Michael Lee Hill dotnet when you

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can go check it out there and he'll be

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River moon coffee mmm yeah it's the best

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today and just use my referral code

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I've got links you can use - it does

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breaking news that's right those twelve

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soccer players and their coats who

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as they entered they left their bikes

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chained at the entrance they expected to

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dive to get them out there all week you

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been in a cave for nine days how are

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any idea but right now they are all safe

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and technically they've been rescued and

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some really bad news but there you go

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all right next up don't forget to sign

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up for our soul tech a conference and

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yes okay quick Tech's coming in from

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Joshua be warned dude ready to go

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well good okay soul tech gathering it's

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a bit East heading ranch this August 9th

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through the 12th all you have to do is

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go to Seoul tech gathering calm Corey

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guest we've got james gilliland Jason

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quit Matthew Ryan Mikayla Sheldon

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Theresa Ian Aras Holly Marie Mary

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Carson Laura can't - and Christine

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containing that is a teachers lineup

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right there you're going to school come

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in hang out with us we're gonna have a

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great party there Sunday night food

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trucks music fun sightings Field of

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amazing event and I just can't wait to

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see all of you up there hundreds of

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phaidor knots all at the same place at

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the same time up and he said 'hey ranch

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and then a week later i'll be heading

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out to dimensions of disclosure that's

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august 17th through the 19th in Loveland

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Colorado with Corey Goode and David

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Wilcock Emory Smith Theresa Norris

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Gerald O'Donnell Jordan Saylor and

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twenty other speakers and presenters all

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you have to do is go to dimensions of

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disclosure calm that's going to be a

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great weekend out there I can't wait for

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it so two great events two weeks in a

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row I wonder how many of you are going

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to both yeah yeah you know what it's

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happen I know that's the way it goes

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right and be out there he said he week

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later in Colorado it's gonna be hey just

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hung out with you for a weekend this is

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David is 70 yeah that's right Curb Your

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Enthusiasm in Seinfeld but hey you know

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there's two versions of Larry the

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original Curb Your Enthusiasm hilarious

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loved it new version socks unwatchable

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so Larry David makes the cut because of

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Seinfeld and the original version of

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birthday today is jenny rivera 1969 to

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2012 died at the age of 43 Jenny

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American singer songwriter actress

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television producer spokesperson

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philanthropist entrepreneur write for

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her work as a banda singer and you know

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Ranchero music absolutely amazing in

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life in death several media outlets

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including CNN billboard Fox News in the

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New York Times have labeled her as the

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most important female figure and

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top-selling female artist in Mexican

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music period Billboard magazine named

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her the top Latin artists of 2013 and

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the best-selling Latin artist in 2013

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but it was on December 9th 2012 she was

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one of five passengers and true to crew

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aboard a Learjet 25 when air traffic

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controllers lost contact as it was

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flying near Nuevo Leon Rivera was

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finally buried on December 31st 2012 at

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all souls Cemetery in Long Beach

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California and that was that was a bad

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day

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aircraft was lost that's right

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the lockheed aircraft carrying American

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aviator Amelia Earhart and navigator

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Frederic Noonan is reported missing near

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Howland Island in the Pacific yep did

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she survive we'll never know 1997 though

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on this day in history Oh TV the

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documentary men in black starring Will

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Smith and Tommy Lee Jones is released

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that's right I said it

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documentary fader fact in south korea

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listen to me

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in South Korea there is an emergency

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phone number and it's phone number one

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one three that you can use to report

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spies that's right and there is your

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fader fact tonight is world UFO day

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that's right tonight we welcome a

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special guest

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Joshua P Warren we're gonna cover all

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things UFO tonight UFO sightings video

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abductions and disclosure and of course

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we're going to discuss his recent

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finding of a time warp outside of Las

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Vegas Nevada that was covered today by

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Fox News very interesting that this

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story broke today we had Joshua book for

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a while for this day for world UFO day

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the story was released today it's an

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interesting read the links are up there

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in Twitter we'll be talking to Joshua

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about that too as well

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and now tomorrow night Michael Lee Hills

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going to be here but there will be no

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shows Wednesday or Thursday because Rita

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and I are taking two days off for July

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4th that's right you're gonna have to

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deal with it alright here we go okay so

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over the weekend on Saturday to be exact

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I was sitting in the bunker here working

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I was I was literally working and then I

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got a call from Tommy Dan Heiser

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the producer with George Noory over at

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coast-to-coast am and he says to me if

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he said hey you know could I go on the

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air I was like what I didn't know what

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he was talking about but I said yes I

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knew that coast to coast wasn't on the

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air didn't know what was going on it was

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like very strange and then he called

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back about a minute later and asked me

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for a quick sound check and I literally

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said testing and he said he got him got

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him got him go let's go and and then he

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just comes straight out he goes Jimmy we

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are live right now with a panel

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with an audience of a hundred and fifty

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you know more or less that's what he

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said

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and so I respond back you know hello

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everyone and then you know there was

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some cheering and and some applause so I

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knew that we were live and it was indeed

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in front of a panel some kind of studio

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audience live somewhere and it turns out

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that this was George Nori's panel at the

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A&P conference in Vancouver the

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architects of the new paradigm

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conference right and then Tom

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immediately goes straight there he says

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and I'm quoting he goes when Tom DeLonge

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was on your show What did he say that we

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should nuke ET and quote I was like did

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he so what and so I didn't remember

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anything about that and I answered

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honestly and as truthful as I could

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which is I answered I don't remember Tom

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saying anything like that which I don't

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right and the call ended so I don't know

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what's going on right i I don't know

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and Tom calls me back after I tweeted

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about the quick guest appearance you

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know on Nori's panel I said you know I

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would report about it today on the show

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so I am now and Tom called me back a bit

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later and explained what went on in it

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which was that Grant Cameron who was

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there at the MP conference who was on

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the panel had said something like and

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I'm quoting here from Tom on Jimmy's

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show the long stated that we should nuke

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ET and quote well Stephen Bassett was

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there too he's on the panel and he took

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exception to Grant's claim and you know

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some back and forth went down and George

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Noory then says you know Dan Heiser you

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know get-get Church on the phone and

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we'll settle this so Tom did and I did

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but then Twitter took over as it should

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and Mark Tirana from Australia posted

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the section

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of the DeLong interview on fade to black

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for everyone to hear for themselves what

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was actually said so here it is I'm

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gonna play it for you and your entire in

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in its entirety for you and let's listen

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this this is tom and i's exchange on

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fade to black here we go a walk in the

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atmosphere like that oh my god it's like

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you would think that like jupiter was

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like crashing into our sky you know it's

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like it's a big deal then and it's just

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it's just unreal um I think one of the

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the you know everyone has to remember

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what happened once we started playing

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with nuclear weapons

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UFOs showed up everywhere every time and

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every time and in and you got to think

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why well there's a big reason why

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because nuclear weapons will ass up

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those little those little ankle-biters

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if it's bad and they know it and and

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even they as advanced as they are they

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can't get away from it and makes you

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really wonder why we did so many nuclear

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tests it makes you really wonder why we

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did like thirty thousand tests all over

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the world and oceans underground up in

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the sky and why we all have so many

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nuclear weapons it's a it's a big deal

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you know I'm not going to say it's all

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for this but I was told something really

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really really important the entire Cold

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War we were working with the Soviet

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Union we were together with them and it

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was the one thing that kept the Cold War

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from going hot it was our relationship

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together on this issue

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we weren't dumb and just went and lit up

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a nuke when we were in a standoff with

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Russia you know at the Cuban Missile

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Crisis wherever look oh my God we're all

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gonna die and we said well then we might

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as well do a nuke test yeah we were it's

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like no it didn't work that way

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they knew we did the new test they were

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probably in the room with us when we did

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that test because there was a small

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group of people on both sides that were

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trying to do exactly what they did which

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was fly swats and bugs out of the sky I

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want to talk about Roswell and not

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deeply I just want to go to the factual

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side of the event itself so there you go

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that's the clip and I do remember this I

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remember the conversation in my memory

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that it was only about nuclear testing

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and the Russians is what I recall and

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that et probably knew that the nuclear

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testing would mess with them in some way

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that was the flavor of it which I can

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agree with at the end Tom says something

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about the testing may have and I'm

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quoting here excuse me that came out of

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nowhere and I'm quoting here fly SWAT

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some bugs out of the sky well that's it

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and there there wasn't any mention by

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Tom saying that we should nuke ET or use

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our weapons against ET no that's not

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what he said I can understand how over

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time some may have stretched this out

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into something that it is not and like

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that old game of telephone you know that

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we used to play as kids after you know

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listening to Tom segment a few times

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there was no way that grant Cameron

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would think this is the opposite of what

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Tom stated you know I don't think grant

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actually listened to the interviewer

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maybe he did but he forgotten and

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somebody else suggested something to him

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and they had heard it from somebody else

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somebody else told them what was said

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and by the time it got back around to

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grant its Tom long says we should nuke

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ET okay I clearly

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think that this is not the case here and

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somebody probably just told grant that

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this is what was said and as with

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anything you have to check and vet

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everything yourself before you go and

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quote or say something in public you're

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going to get caught every time that's

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just the way it that it is and and this

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you know I I appreciate Steve ambassador

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to it but I doubt Bassett listened to

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the show maybe he has now but there it

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is and there's the clip and I am

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probably gonna post a little video about

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this on YouTube and and get it out there

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to clear all of this up so everybody can

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go and listen to this very specific clip

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and you can hear what was said now

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knowing all of that I have been very

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vocal about some issues with TTS a and

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the way that the videos were presented

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and and other things okay so that that's

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that part but this stands completely

542
00:29:21,659 --> 00:29:18,399
alone

543
00:29:25,769 --> 00:29:21,669
from this situation here and in this

544
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:25,779
case I've listened to it I'm gonna back

545
00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:30,159
up Tom and what he said he he did not

546
00:29:36,090 --> 00:29:34,000
say we should nuke eet it's not what he

547
00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:36,100
said this was about nuclear testing and

548
00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:39,789
the Russians and an et presence and the

549
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:43,390
fact that there may have been less et's

550
00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:46,330
during nuclear testing or whatever

551
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:50,200
reason but that that is it so I'm just

552
00:29:56,639 --> 00:29:52,510
gonna go on the record and and and say

553
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in this case now that that tom was right

554
00:30:06,690 --> 00:30:01,809
and also I listened to this many many

555
00:30:09,779 --> 00:30:06,700
many many times now dozens since this

556
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:09,789
thing went down and I gotta say if you

557
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:16,450
go back and you listen to Tom he sounds

558
00:30:21,630 --> 00:30:19,809
bright and engaged here and that's not

559
00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:21,640
the way I remember that interview I

560
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:24,150
remember that interview being fun we

561
00:30:28,580 --> 00:30:26,610
music and we talked about all kinds of

562
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,590
aspects of IDT and what it possibly

563
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:30,240
could be and we jumped into a lot of

564
00:30:35,090 --> 00:30:31,970
religious things I remember all of that

565
00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:35,100
but I also remember the interview being

566
00:30:43,580 --> 00:30:40,350
a bit more loose here tom is engaged he

567
00:30:45,470 --> 00:30:43,590
is right there he's spot-on and and I

568
00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:45,480
think what he said made a lot of sense

569
00:30:49,490 --> 00:30:48,270
also I think there was a mistake made I

570
00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:49,500
think he said that there were thirty

571
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:51,660
thousand nuclear tests I don't think

572
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:52,880
there was that many I think there was

573
00:30:58,340 --> 00:30:56,490
two thousand I could be wrong can

574
00:31:00,980 --> 00:30:58,350
somebody look that up I'm gonna see that

575
00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:00,990
in Twitter really quick somebody help me

576
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,200
out and how many nuclear tests have

577
00:31:10,490 --> 00:31:06,960
there been in the history of the world

578
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:10,500
mine my memory says 2000 and he says

579
00:31:15,770 --> 00:31:12,330
thirty thousand there

580
00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:15,780
he probably just misspoke and I don't

581
00:31:20,330 --> 00:31:17,940
want this to get into something that it

582
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:20,340
is not but there you go and I wanted to

583
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:23,010
clear the air for everybody so you can

584
00:31:29,870 --> 00:31:25,970
actually hear not only on this show live

585
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:29,880
but forever in YouTube and in our

586
00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:32,510
archives what was actually said and

587
00:31:38,860 --> 00:31:34,380
there you go

588
00:31:41,030 --> 00:31:38,870
grant also has a show on K GRA and

589
00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:41,040
hopefully he'll be able to go there and

590
00:31:46,790 --> 00:31:43,980
and clear this up too as well because I

591
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,800
think he is a great researcher and I

592
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:48,720
think this was all a game of telephone

593
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:50,490
and a misunderstanding all the way

594
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around that's my take there's the

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official recording right there and now I

596
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think we can move on with that I'm gonna

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get out of here because tonight is the

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evening of world UFO day all right

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Joshua P Warren and if you haven't seen

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Warren tomorrow night Michael Lee Hill

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start on Travel Channel series

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paranormal paparazzi travels of the

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and is even made the cover of a science

701
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journal back in 2004 for lab experiments

702
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:00,950
regarding energy fields in nature

703
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related to the Brown Mountain lights

704
00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:07,610
tonight is world UFO day that's kind of

705
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sounds weird tonight is world UFO night

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and we're gonna discuss every side of

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the UFO question including abduction

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sightings contact and disclosure and of

709
00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:22,970
course the Fox News story that broke

710
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today and that is very interesting we're

711
00:38:30,580 --> 00:38:28,340
gonna discuss that too I'd like to

712
00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:30,590
welcome back to fade to black Joshua P

713
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Warren Joshua you've had a busy day my

714
00:38:38,830 --> 00:38:36,410
friend oh you know I'm praying honestly

715
00:38:42,460 --> 00:38:38,840
that I can keep my voice because it's

716
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:42,470
been a busy past seven days I'm very

717
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:43,970
honored to be on the program with you

718
00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:46,610
but seriously I mean I've gotten almost

719
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:49,660
no sleep because for the past almost

720
00:38:56,530 --> 00:38:52,610
seven days I have been receiving calls

721
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:56,540
from media around the clock just last

722
00:39:00,940 --> 00:38:58,640
night I was talking to two production

723
00:39:02,410 --> 00:39:00,950
companies in London who want to do a

724
00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:02,420
piece with me and that was three o'clock

725
00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:04,190
in the morning my time and then I got up

726
00:39:09,610 --> 00:39:05,790
and did three interviews to face

727
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:09,620
so forgive me if I don't sound as

728
00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:15,090
powerful on the air like you know what's

729
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:18,540
great Joshua is when you have that lack

730
00:39:23,090 --> 00:39:21,090
of sleep and you go into that zone

731
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:23,100
that's when I'm gonna get the best out

732
00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:28,200
of you that's a so let's put the gloves

733
00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:29,640
on man and get ready we're gonna have

734
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:31,950
some fun tonight so it's world UFO day

735
00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:36,930
and this story broke we you and I had

736
00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:39,240
all kinds of plans about discussing you

737
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:40,680
know everything you have all related

738
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:44,970
this story breaks today with Fox and I

739
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:48,090
read through it I'm like holy crap right

740
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:50,970
okay Joshua once again did it so I do

741
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:54,210
want to discuss that in depth and then I

742
00:40:02,030 --> 00:39:58,170
do want to take some time to discuss a

743
00:40:07,940 --> 00:40:02,040
couple of years ago on the program you

744
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:07,950
revealed the the UFO over the airport in

745
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,690
Puerto Rico and and we aired that you

746
00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:14,160
know for the first time on this show and

747
00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:18,180
when we played that video and I watched

748
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:20,550
it was one thing to watch it go over the

749
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:22,410
airport but it was a whole nother thing

750
00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:23,850
to watch it go in and out of the water

751
00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:25,980
that just absolutely freaked me out

752
00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:27,870
but this is what I find interesting

753
00:40:33,260 --> 00:40:30,780
about that video in the since December

754
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,270
as the world knows we've had three

755
00:40:37,250 --> 00:40:36,000
videos surfaced well they've been out on

756
00:40:40,670 --> 00:40:37,260
the web for a while but they certainly

757
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:40,680
surfaced through the New York Times and

758
00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:43,920
the mass media of these three gun camera

759
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:48,270
shots and as cool as they are and you

760
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:50,610
know they show whatever they show they

761
00:40:58,190 --> 00:40:54,690
are nothing compared to that video from

762
00:41:01,550 --> 00:40:58,200
Puerto Rico and I want to go back and

763
00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:01,560
revisit the importance of that and how

764
00:41:06,620 --> 00:41:04,200
do you feel now when you have seen you

765
00:41:09,410 --> 00:41:06,630
know those three recent videos that have

766
00:41:11,690 --> 00:41:09,420
been put out there and comparing that to

767
00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:11,700
what happened over in Puerto Rico to me

768
00:41:17,630 --> 00:41:14,520
it's apples and oranges I couldn't agree

769
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:17,640
more I mean I have been saying for

770
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:19,410
months now that

771
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:21,450
I'm happy that the Pentagon finally

772
00:41:26,839 --> 00:41:24,319
admitted that their back engineering UFO

773
00:41:28,789 --> 00:41:26,849
debris and and they're doing it of

774
00:41:30,260 --> 00:41:28,799
course right here in the Las Vegas area

775
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:30,270
which is where I'm joining you from

776
00:41:36,319 --> 00:41:33,569
right and and of course I was happy that

777
00:41:39,289 --> 00:41:36,329
they put some footage out but it's like

778
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:39,299
there still is truly a blind eye being

779
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:42,510
turned to the astounding significance of

780
00:41:48,650 --> 00:41:45,210
that footage and and not just the

781
00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:48,660
footage itself but also the 162 page

782
00:41:54,049 --> 00:41:51,180
report that was done by a group of

783
00:41:57,170 --> 00:41:54,059
scientists who really broke that down

784
00:41:59,900 --> 00:41:57,180
and you know I can tell you once again

785
00:42:03,770 --> 00:41:59,910
that I was in Puerto Rico when that

786
00:42:06,730 --> 00:42:03,780
footage was captured and there was a a

787
00:42:09,980 --> 00:42:06,740
ruckus that spread all across the island

788
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:09,990
because something like that on an island

789
00:42:14,420 --> 00:42:12,089
where everybody to some degree may kind

790
00:42:17,029 --> 00:42:14,430
of know each other it spreads like

791
00:42:20,990 --> 00:42:17,039
wildfire and it was pretty obvious that

792
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:21,000
nobody knew what that was and there is

793
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:23,730
still no good explanation for what it

794
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:27,180
was and I find that it's interesting

795
00:42:32,539 --> 00:42:30,930
that we have that and many other kinds

796
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:32,549
of UFO incidents that have occurred

797
00:42:38,660 --> 00:42:36,630
around Puerto Rico leading up to the

798
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:38,670
hurricane and even after the hurricane

799
00:42:43,730 --> 00:42:41,640
that are just not being reported and so

800
00:42:48,260 --> 00:42:43,740
it's it's very strange to me as well

801
00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:48,270
well I am going to take another look at

802
00:42:53,930 --> 00:42:51,630
that footage and and I'm gonna you know

803
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:53,940
quite frankly I'm just gonna re-release

804
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,119
the story I think I think the media

805
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:00,000
needs to go back as much as they're

806
00:43:05,779 --> 00:43:02,250
playing those other three videos which

807
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:05,789
again are there ok you know it's not

808
00:43:10,099 --> 00:43:08,490
like they're bad or great you know that

809
00:43:12,289 --> 00:43:10,109
I think they're like right in the middle

810
00:43:15,049 --> 00:43:12,299
but that footage over Puerto Rico is

811
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:15,059
friggin mind-blowing it's mind-blowing

812
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:17,520
and they should be showing that video

813
00:43:22,910 --> 00:43:19,410
and asking questions and they are not

814
00:43:24,410 --> 00:43:22,920
and I'm frustrated with it well it makes

815
00:43:28,010 --> 00:43:24,420
you wonder about a couple of things

816
00:43:30,829 --> 00:43:28,020
number one if the amount of disclosure

817
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,839
was still being measured very very

818
00:43:34,730 --> 00:43:32,880
carefully meaning that some of the

819
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:34,740
evidence is still not being acknowledged

820
00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:37,530
and secondly if it's because that this

821
00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:40,860
was around an airport that had

822
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:44,760
commercial planes with civilians and by

823
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:49,440
admitting that they could not control or

824
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:53,370
even define what this thing was which

825
00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:55,530
was demonstrating this incredible

826
00:44:00,140 --> 00:43:57,660
technical skill that's truly out of this

827
00:44:03,380 --> 00:44:00,150
world right around a place where you

828
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:03,390
have a bunch of vulnerable people they

829
00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:05,370
may be afraid that actually would

830
00:44:09,290 --> 00:44:07,470
frighten the public and cause too much

831
00:44:12,830 --> 00:44:09,300
outrage that's the only way that I can

832
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:12,840
look at this logically that you know it

833
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:14,730
was it's one thing to say well here's an

834
00:44:17,930 --> 00:44:16,500
engagement that happened around an

835
00:44:19,580 --> 00:44:17,940
aircraft carrier out in the middle of

836
00:44:20,420 --> 00:44:19,590
the ocean or whatever but it's another

837
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:20,430
thing to say

838
00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:23,370
look how vulnerable an airport is where

839
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:25,740
all of our homeland security guys all

840
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:26,970
they can do is just sit there and

841
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:28,530
document it and that's all they don't

842
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:30,210
know what they're doing with it yeah and

843
00:44:34,910 --> 00:44:32,730
you're being kind actually you just said

844
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:34,920
around airport that thing flew straight

845
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:37,770
up the middle of the runway and and not

846
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:39,810
only you know and you have to think of

847
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:45,330
in terms of et intelligence looks for

848
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:48,810
other intelligence so it's you know

849
00:44:54,890 --> 00:44:52,010
that's what we do here as as humans and

850
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:54,900
if you were et what would you do you

851
00:44:57,260 --> 00:44:55,710
know what

852
00:44:59,480 --> 00:44:57,270
how about cruise right up the middle of

853
00:45:03,740 --> 00:44:59,490
a runway let's go check out the other

854
00:45:05,930 --> 00:45:03,750
deck and that's exactly what happened

855
00:45:09,140 --> 00:45:05,940
the little dive into the ocean well two

856
00:45:12,850 --> 00:45:09,150
dives was an extraordinary ending to a

857
00:45:14,210 --> 00:45:12,860
pretty amazing video yeah and of course

858
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:14,220
this thing

859
00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:18,090
it was around at least six feet in

860
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:20,940
diameter it was traveling about 120

861
00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:24,210
miles per hour it did not have any wings

862
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:26,670
or any rotors or any visible means of

863
00:45:32,330 --> 00:45:29,490
propulsion it was traveling against the

864
00:45:34,730 --> 00:45:32,340
wind in many many cases it was being

865
00:45:36,170 --> 00:45:34,740
documented with thermal cameras that

866
00:45:37,940 --> 00:45:36,180
showed us that it had you know an

867
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:37,950
extraordinary temperature this is not

868
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:40,080
some kind of like you know balloon or

869
00:45:46,250 --> 00:45:43,410
some object like that and then it's

870
00:45:47,020 --> 00:45:46,260
further shape-shifts as well and the

871
00:45:48,670 --> 00:45:47,030
object

872
00:45:52,270 --> 00:45:48,680
of course you know when it dips into the

873
00:45:55,570 --> 00:45:52,280
water you can see it continuing to

874
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:55,580
travel just below the surface of the

875
00:46:00,250 --> 00:45:57,650
water because it drew seeing this with

876
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:00,260
the thermal camera and so you see this

877
00:46:02,380 --> 00:46:01,970
thing I know inches below the surface of

878
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:02,390
the water

879
00:46:07,570 --> 00:46:04,370
zipping just below and then when it

880
00:46:10,750 --> 00:46:07,580
emerges now it's joined by this second

881
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:10,760
object and they both are dipping in and

882
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:13,040
out and then finally they disappear at

883
00:46:17,710 --> 00:46:14,960
the same time into the ocean and the

884
00:46:21,130 --> 00:46:17,720
camera is still searching for them and

885
00:46:22,810 --> 00:46:21,140
because this is authentic footage nobody

886
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:22,820
discounts the authenticity of the

887
00:46:28,330 --> 00:46:25,250
footage because this is thermal footage

888
00:46:30,250 --> 00:46:28,340
that showed us a lot more information a

889
00:46:34,090 --> 00:46:30,260
lot more data than just something that's

890
00:46:36,490 --> 00:46:34,100
optically based and because that you

891
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:36,500
know this was was documented with with

892
00:46:43,660 --> 00:46:40,850
such a great precision to me this is

893
00:46:45,970 --> 00:46:43,670
perhaps the most compelling evidence of

894
00:46:48,510 --> 00:46:45,980
all that we have these things flying

895
00:46:51,490 --> 00:46:48,520
around us which we cannot explain and so

896
00:46:53,980 --> 00:46:51,500
it is perplexing to me because over the

897
00:46:56,290 --> 00:46:53,990
years I have done everything I can to go

898
00:46:59,710 --> 00:46:56,300
out and study what different types of

899
00:47:02,350 --> 00:46:59,720
drones and balloons and gliders and all

900
00:47:04,750 --> 00:47:02,360
that stuff look like and this thing

901
00:47:09,010 --> 00:47:04,760
whatever it was was not one of those in

902
00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:09,020
my opinion the other part of the footage

903
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:12,950
which again it's about provenance right

904
00:47:18,670 --> 00:47:15,770
and chain of command wasn't this shot by

905
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:18,680
the Department of Homeland Security yes

906
00:47:25,180 --> 00:47:21,920
yes it was and in fact the scientists

907
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:25,190
who studied this were even able to break

908
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:29,690
it right down to the kind of camera that

909
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:32,330
was used the kind of airplane that was

910
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:35,810
used the kind of attachment I mean we

911
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:37,040
know a great deal of technical

912
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:40,640
information and all of this was freely

913
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:44,690
released as a PDF to the general public

914
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:47,510
you know into the public domain and so

915
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:49,310
at any point you can still go to my

916
00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:52,130
website Joshua p1 comm and click the

917
00:47:57,490 --> 00:47:54,590
news section and you'll see a link there

918
00:47:59,770 --> 00:47:57,500
- Oh UFOs or you can click a section

919
00:48:00,819 --> 00:47:59,780
called gallery of the strange and you'll

920
00:48:03,009 --> 00:48:00,829
see the link to Oh

921
00:48:05,620 --> 00:48:03,019
fos and when you click that you can see

922
00:48:07,509 --> 00:48:05,630
the footage you can see my video report

923
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:07,519
on it you can read my release on it and

924
00:48:13,959 --> 00:48:11,209
you can read that 162 page PDF and I

925
00:48:16,989 --> 00:48:13,969
don't know what more could be done in

926
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:16,999
order to verify and validate that this

927
00:48:22,690 --> 00:48:19,369
is truly something extraordinary it's an

928
00:48:24,969 --> 00:48:22,700
exotic technology it came right into our

929
00:48:27,579 --> 00:48:24,979
restricted airspace without any care or

930
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:27,589
consideration of our retaliation or our

931
00:48:33,309 --> 00:48:31,249
reaction and I think that again this is

932
00:48:35,709 --> 00:48:33,319
the only sort of possible explanation

933
00:48:37,859 --> 00:48:35,719
for why this has been more dismissed

934
00:48:40,989 --> 00:48:37,869
because it truly illustrates our

935
00:48:42,999 --> 00:48:40,999
vulnerabilities yeah and before we I

936
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:43,009
totally agree with you and before we get

937
00:48:49,150 --> 00:48:47,089
to the time warp which man man man okay

938
00:48:51,099 --> 00:48:49,160
we're gonna spend some time on that but

939
00:48:54,009 --> 00:48:51,109
before we get to that I wanted to ask

940
00:48:55,779 --> 00:48:54,019
you where do you think we are now in

941
00:48:57,729 --> 00:48:55,789
these days of disclosure it's been a

942
00:49:00,699 --> 00:48:57,739
pretty extraordinary ride over the last

943
00:49:04,420 --> 00:49:00,709
seven months but it seems like to me

944
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:04,430
from where I'm standing or sitting that

945
00:49:10,209 --> 00:49:07,609
it is kind of tapered off a little bit

946
00:49:13,959 --> 00:49:10,219
and I thought that we could have ridden

947
00:49:17,799 --> 00:49:13,969
this wave a little bit better where do

948
00:49:21,989 --> 00:49:17,809
you think we are well you know I for one

949
00:49:25,150 --> 00:49:21,999
thing am amazed at how few people even

950
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:25,160
still know about that information being

951
00:49:29,469 --> 00:49:27,440
released I mean I encounter people every

952
00:49:32,289 --> 00:49:29,479
day and I mentioned well you know the

953
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:32,299
Pentagon disclosed blah blah blah and

954
00:49:36,930 --> 00:49:34,249
they're like huh know what you know and

955
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:36,940
I have to fill them in best I can and

956
00:49:43,739 --> 00:49:40,160
because even the mainstream media did

957
00:49:45,819 --> 00:49:43,749
not do a really fantastic job of

958
00:49:48,489 --> 00:49:45,829
elevating that to the level of national

959
00:49:52,299 --> 00:49:48,499
discussion that it deserves and so that

960
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:52,309
tells you something just about I guess

961
00:49:57,699 --> 00:49:55,249
how still unfortunately dismissive many

962
00:50:00,459 --> 00:49:57,709
members of the mainstream media are for

963
00:50:04,349 --> 00:50:00,469
one reason or another but my feeling is

964
00:50:07,630 --> 00:50:04,359
that there is no logical case to be made

965
00:50:10,059 --> 00:50:07,640
for why that the government at any point

966
00:50:13,209 --> 00:50:10,069
should ever actually release all of

967
00:50:14,180 --> 00:50:13,219
their their secrets I just can't I can't

968
00:50:15,770 --> 00:50:14,190
understand this anew

969
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:15,780
which they would think that's a good

970
00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:19,200
idea but I believe there will be gradual

971
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:23,160
instances where people are able to slip

972
00:50:28,370 --> 00:50:26,010
outside the boundaries of what they're

973
00:50:30,380 --> 00:50:28,380
supposed to talk about and and very

974
00:50:33,140 --> 00:50:30,390
quickly get something out there in the

975
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,150
media and so we will get little bits and

976
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:35,520
pieces like this and little glimpses but

977
00:50:40,610 --> 00:50:37,230
I don't think that we're ever going to

978
00:50:44,780 --> 00:50:40,620
have a full disclosure unless and until

979
00:50:46,310 --> 00:50:44,790
these beings themselves decide to make

980
00:50:49,550 --> 00:50:46,320
themselves known because they obviously

981
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:49,560
are holding the cards here and and but

982
00:50:53,060 --> 00:50:51,570
then when it comes to that I also can't

983
00:50:54,290 --> 00:50:53,070
see a good reason why they would want to

984
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:54,300
do that either

985
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,970
the aliens so to speak I mean as I've

986
00:51:01,340 --> 00:50:58,800
said before when I go hiking through the

987
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:01,350
woods I'm not you know sort of hidden

988
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,690
knocking on the bushes trying to prove

989
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:05,760
to every squirrel and rabbit that humans

990
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:08,730
exist it doesn't matter to me if those

991
00:51:12,860 --> 00:51:10,770
animals know that in fact on the

992
00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:12,870
contrary I usually try not to disturb

993
00:51:18,670 --> 00:51:15,720
them and so if we are indeed looking at

994
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:18,680
visitations here from an advanced

995
00:51:25,310 --> 00:51:21,450
species whether they be interdimensional

996
00:51:27,350 --> 00:51:25,320
extraterrestrial or both then I can say

997
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:27,360
that well I don't think that the people

998
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,690
are going to talk about it and and I

999
00:51:34,820 --> 00:51:32,880
don't think that the extraterrestrials

1000
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:34,830
themselves have any clear motivation

1001
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:36,570
that I can see to come out with it and

1002
00:51:41,810 --> 00:51:39,930
so we probably have to just sort of make

1003
00:51:43,490 --> 00:51:41,820
up our minds with with what's already

1004
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:43,500
available out there and what continues

1005
00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:46,490
to seep out why do you think the the

1006
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:50,760
Pentagon what appears that the Pentagon

1007
00:51:57,380 --> 00:51:54,930
suddenly was freeing up you know this

1008
00:52:00,110 --> 00:51:57,390
attitude not only to the UFO community

1009
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:00,120
but back to the rest of the world that

1010
00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:02,310
they were willing to discuss this

1011
00:52:07,850 --> 00:52:04,680
situation why would they choose to do

1012
00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:07,860
that now well I think it's really

1013
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:11,310
interesting that President Trump just

1014
00:52:18,110 --> 00:52:14,970
announced the formation of the space

1015
00:52:21,740 --> 00:52:18,120
force right and so if you look at that

1016
00:52:24,170 --> 00:52:21,750
in retrospect you might think that they

1017
00:52:26,990 --> 00:52:24,180
were they weren't sure what the reaction

1018
00:52:27,530 --> 00:52:27,000
would be and that they thought let's

1019
00:52:29,930 --> 00:52:27,540
just

1020
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:29,940
little release to indicate that there's

1021
00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:31,920
some weird stuff flying around in outer

1022
00:52:36,830 --> 00:52:33,660
space that comes down once in a while

1023
00:52:39,950 --> 00:52:36,840
and and just see if that's going to

1024
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:39,960
inspire people to get behind this idea

1025
00:52:45,260 --> 00:52:42,450
of a space force because I guarantee you

1026
00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:45,270
if the president is talking about

1027
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:47,220
creating a space force now well

1028
00:52:50,660 --> 00:52:48,930
something like that has already existed

1029
00:52:53,630 --> 00:52:50,670
for a long time

1030
00:52:56,570 --> 00:52:53,640
sure and and so that to me is probably

1031
00:52:58,460 --> 00:52:56,580
the most telling an insightful aspect of

1032
00:53:00,020 --> 00:52:58,470
this that at the time yeah we're

1033
00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:00,030
scratching our heads like why would they

1034
00:53:03,590 --> 00:53:02,070
do this other than you know get it you

1035
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:03,600
have some disgruntled whistleblower

1036
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:05,850
types who want to get some credit for

1037
00:53:09,830 --> 00:53:07,920
their work but now that we have this

1038
00:53:13,310 --> 00:53:09,840
space force being developed it may have

1039
00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:13,320
been an experiment to see if that would

1040
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:15,630
help the people support it what do you

1041
00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:19,890
think ultimately the space force what do

1042
00:53:26,570 --> 00:53:22,500
you envision it as because I agree with

1043
00:53:27,350 --> 00:53:26,580
you there's been something going on up

1044
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,360
there

1045
00:53:32,570 --> 00:53:30,000
secretly and covertly for a very long

1046
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:32,580
time there's no reason to disclose that

1047
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:36,240
kind of stuff to the world but what do

1048
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:38,940
you think ultimately the space force is

1049
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:43,290
actually going to be well I mean you can

1050
00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:45,930
say from just the most I guess strict

1051
00:53:50,570 --> 00:53:48,180
and practical point of view that it's

1052
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:50,580
just an attempt to be able to you know

1053
00:53:57,170 --> 00:53:54,690
control a higher level of altitude when

1054
00:53:59,090 --> 00:53:57,180
it comes to people being able to use spy

1055
00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:59,100
satellites and shoot off rockets and

1056
00:54:03,830 --> 00:54:01,200
that sort of thing but I feel that

1057
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:03,840
probably on a on a more conspiratorial

1058
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:08,010
level I have seen over the years very

1059
00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:11,450
strange things flying around at night

1060
00:54:15,890 --> 00:54:13,470
using third generation night-vision

1061
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:15,900
goggles mm-hmm that I I know are not

1062
00:54:20,180 --> 00:54:18,330
satellites they're not space junk I mean

1063
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:20,190
those things you can pretty easily rule

1064
00:54:24,260 --> 00:54:22,710
out after a while and sometimes it looks

1065
00:54:29,060 --> 00:54:24,270
like they're interacting with each other

1066
00:54:33,950 --> 00:54:29,070
as if they're being controlled and so it

1067
00:54:35,570 --> 00:54:33,960
may be that we we already have some

1068
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:35,580
spaceships up there with your you know

1069
00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:37,650
Buck Rogers types running around and

1070
00:54:41,029 --> 00:54:40,200
occasionally getting into scuffles but I

1071
00:54:43,609 --> 00:54:41,039
am open

1072
00:54:45,380 --> 00:54:43,619
to the idea and this is one that people

1073
00:54:50,359 --> 00:54:45,390
would say is the wackiest of all but I'm

1074
00:54:54,769 --> 00:54:50,369
open to the idea that we do work with

1075
00:54:59,900 --> 00:54:54,779
some of these beings and that there may

1076
00:55:02,059 --> 00:54:59,910
actually be some type of coalition if

1077
00:55:04,759 --> 00:55:02,069
you will or an attempt at a coalition in

1078
00:55:07,849 --> 00:55:04,769
outer space where we try to head off

1079
00:55:09,890 --> 00:55:07,859
some of these spacecraft from other

1080
00:55:12,229 --> 00:55:09,900
worlds that are coming here without

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being properly licensed sort of men and

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00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:16,140
black style mm-hmm and and of course you

1083
00:55:20,959 --> 00:55:18,390
know there has been a lot of talk about

1084
00:55:23,839 --> 00:55:20,969
this for for decades now especially the

1085
00:55:28,279 --> 00:55:23,849
Eisenhower may have had some arrangement

1086
00:55:31,189 --> 00:55:28,289
made with a downed et look I I'm open to

1087
00:55:33,319 --> 00:55:31,199
that possibility and and what I find is

1088
00:55:36,109 --> 00:55:33,329
sort of refreshing about all this is

1089
00:55:38,749 --> 00:55:36,119
that you know well not too long ago just

1090
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:38,759
pretty much when we were kids the

1091
00:55:42,709 --> 00:55:40,799
mainstream scientists would just chuckle

1092
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:42,719
and blow off the idea that there even

1093
00:55:47,509 --> 00:55:45,209
aliens out there now most of remained

1094
00:55:49,299 --> 00:55:47,519
stream scientists say well odds are yeah

1095
00:55:51,799 --> 00:55:49,309
they're out there there's a lot of space

1096
00:55:53,299 --> 00:55:51,809
there's an unimaginable amount of space

1097
00:55:56,089 --> 00:55:53,309
there are a lot of you know rocks and

1098
00:55:57,919 --> 00:55:56,099
planets and stars and that it would be

1099
00:56:00,409 --> 00:55:57,929
you know more unlikely that we're the

1100
00:56:03,529 --> 00:56:00,419
only thing and so we are seeing this

1101
00:56:06,409 --> 00:56:03,539
gradual shift toward the idea that there

1102
00:56:07,999 --> 00:56:06,419
there may be intelligence out there and

1103
00:56:09,469 --> 00:56:08,009
I think that a lot of these military

1104
00:56:12,169 --> 00:56:09,479
folks are the ones who would have

1105
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,179
obviously encountered that first of all

1106
00:56:18,109 --> 00:56:14,400
in the front lines when I think about

1107
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:18,119
mmm the space for as soon as it was

1108
00:56:22,370 --> 00:56:19,890
mentioned I couldn't help but think of

1109
00:56:25,099 --> 00:56:22,380
the movie Starship Troopers yeah right

1110
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,109
now about being serious too and but this

1111
00:56:29,419 --> 00:56:27,599
is that's me but you know what I found

1112
00:56:31,099 --> 00:56:29,429
really strange I just kind of sat back

1113
00:56:34,189 --> 00:56:31,109
Josh one thought you know what I'm not

1114
00:56:35,659 --> 00:56:34,199
the only one thinking this the hundreds

1115
00:56:38,509 --> 00:56:35,669
of millions of people around the world

1116
00:56:43,539 --> 00:56:38,519
that saw that press conference thought

1117
00:56:47,359 --> 00:56:43,549
the exact same thing to you know force a

1118
00:56:50,089 --> 00:56:47,369
sixth branch of the military all the

1119
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:50,099
other branches are weaponized why

1120
00:56:55,130 --> 00:56:53,130
wouldn't the space force to and you

1121
00:56:56,990 --> 00:56:55,140
can't help but think about

1122
00:56:59,690 --> 00:56:57,000
movie like Starship Troopers that that

1123
00:57:02,600 --> 00:56:59,700
is actually what's going on is that is

1124
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:02,610
that crazy thinking or quite possibly

1125
00:57:08,270 --> 00:57:05,280
are we on the target with that kind of

1126
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:08,280
thought well no I think it makes logical

1127
00:57:16,340 --> 00:57:11,610
sense if you consider that the ultimate

1128
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:16,350
goal of humankind is to survive long

1129
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:19,010
enough to possibly become a type 4

1130
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:22,110
civilization on the Kardashev skill so

1131
00:57:29,870 --> 00:57:26,130
to just refresh the listeners I mean a

1132
00:57:31,730 --> 00:57:29,880
type one civilization would be a planet

1133
00:57:33,980 --> 00:57:31,740
that's able to take full advantage of

1134
00:57:38,210 --> 00:57:33,990
all of its resources and use them

1135
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:38,220
harmoniously and then a type 2 is one

1136
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:41,250
that would expand out to to do the same

1137
00:57:47,870 --> 00:57:44,910
thing taking full advantage of the solar

1138
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:47,880
system and then type 3 is when you would

1139
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:50,130
expand to do that in your galaxy and

1140
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:52,770
then type 4 is where you travel beyond

1141
00:57:57,830 --> 00:57:55,440
your galaxy to other galaxies the star

1142
00:58:00,500 --> 00:57:57,840
systems and and you start taking their

1143
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:00,510
resources and we're not even a type one

1144
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:02,910
you know we are still a type zero here

1145
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:04,980
on this planet and we're a long way from

1146
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:07,440
becoming a type one but I think that is

1147
00:58:13,730 --> 00:58:11,250
the ultimate goal and so there are our

1148
00:58:18,140 --> 00:58:13,740
probably efforts that are being put in

1149
00:58:20,660 --> 00:58:18,150
place already to prepare us to to start

1150
00:58:24,410 --> 00:58:20,670
moving out there when when we're ready

1151
00:58:26,990 --> 00:58:24,420
and of course then there always is the

1152
00:58:29,450 --> 00:58:27,000
back-up plan that the the elite may have

1153
00:58:31,220 --> 00:58:29,460
in order to save themselves by getting

1154
00:58:34,550 --> 00:58:31,230
off of this planet if something

1155
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:34,560
calamitous happens and so you know there

1156
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:36,000
are a number of reasons that we might

1157
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:38,130
want to have a force that could

1158
00:58:46,370 --> 00:58:42,570
essentially if nothing else escort us to

1159
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:46,380
another place if things go awry here on

1160
00:58:49,940 --> 00:58:49,050
earth now we're gonna head to a break in

1161
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:49,950
three minutes

1162
00:58:59,870 --> 00:58:55,680
so I'll ask a simple question when the

1163
00:59:02,780 --> 00:58:59,880
world gets that question answered about

1164
00:59:05,300 --> 00:59:02,790
ete contact and are we alone in the

1165
00:59:08,030 --> 00:59:05,310
universe when the world gets the answer

1166
00:59:10,460 --> 00:59:08,040
not our community not Joshua P Warren

1167
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:10,470
but the world how do you think it's

1168
00:59:15,890 --> 00:59:13,770
gonna happen well for one thing you know

1169
00:59:20,060 --> 00:59:15,900
we still have people in this world to

1170
00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:20,070
believe the planet is flat so I mean

1171
00:59:25,550 --> 00:59:23,640
you're never going to to get a world in

1172
00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:25,560
which every single person agrees on that

1173
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:30,420
but I think that it is it's unfortunate

1174
00:59:40,220 --> 00:59:36,050
that we have become a very paranoid

1175
00:59:43,370 --> 00:59:40,230
society and that's why we see so much

1176
00:59:45,590 --> 00:59:43,380
negativity being focused on in the media

1177
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,600
it's scare mongering it's trying to

1178
00:59:50,780 --> 00:59:47,760
control people and it works

1179
00:59:52,820 --> 00:59:50,790
which is why they perpetuate it and so I

1180
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,830
think that you know I used to believe

1181
00:59:57,110 --> 00:59:54,720
that the whole war of the worlds'

1182
00:59:59,570 --> 00:59:57,120
scenario where everybody freaked out was

1183
01:00:01,100 --> 00:59:59,580
not giving us due credit but the more I

1184
01:00:03,050 --> 01:00:01,110
liked the longer I live and the more

1185
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:03,060
people I meet I got to be honest with

1186
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:04,530
you Jimmy I still think there are a lot

1187
01:00:08,660 --> 01:00:05,850
of people who are gonna freak out and

1188
01:00:11,330 --> 01:00:08,670
say these are demons this is the end

1189
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:11,340
times you know this is Armageddon and

1190
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:12,480
they're gonna they're not going to be

1191
01:00:17,210 --> 01:00:14,850
able to to function in an ordinary

1192
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:17,220
capacity and respect the authority of

1193
01:00:21,710 --> 01:00:19,170
humans because now they're just gonna

1194
01:00:25,550 --> 01:00:21,720
look to the authority of these et well

1195
01:00:28,370 --> 01:00:25,560
and although I tend to agree with that I

1196
01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:28,380
really do but then the other part is

1197
01:00:34,910 --> 01:00:30,720
with all of the mass media coverage that

1198
01:00:37,460 --> 01:00:34,920
we had back on December 16th we didn't

1199
01:00:39,590 --> 01:00:37,470
have anarchy in the streets the Vatican

1200
01:00:43,070 --> 01:00:39,600
didn't collapse the New York Stock

1201
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:43,080
Exchange probably grew that day and the

1202
01:00:49,130 --> 01:00:46,170
world didn't fall apart and I that I

1203
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:49,140
felt pretty good about that well but a

1204
01:00:53,780 --> 01:00:51,510
lot of people still are not willing to

1205
01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:53,790
make that leap that this is actually

1206
01:00:58,430 --> 01:00:56,400
evidence of extraterrestrials they'd

1207
01:01:00,440 --> 01:00:58,440
rather think that this is some kind of

1208
01:01:02,660 --> 01:01:00,450
secret man-made technology it's the

1209
01:01:04,990 --> 01:01:02,670
Russians or the North Koreans or whoever

1210
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:05,000
now we know that that is not

1211
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:07,890
technologically feasible but if a lot of

1212
01:01:10,790 --> 01:01:09,330
people say if you're going to look at

1213
01:01:13,010 --> 01:01:10,800
Occam's razor and what's most likely

1214
01:01:16,910 --> 01:01:13,020
right more likely that it's that than

1215
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:16,920
the et I can't argue with that let's

1216
01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:18,240
take a break right here or I guess

1217
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:20,700
tonight on this beautiful world do you

1218
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:24,480
Foday joshua P Warren now when we come

1219
01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:27,210
back we're gonna go straight to it we're

1220
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:29,910
gonna talk about this this Fox News

1221
01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:32,250
article today about Joshua's discovery

1222
01:01:37,130 --> 01:01:35,280
right outside of Las Vegas Nevada Josh

1223
01:01:37,940 --> 01:01:37,140
stay right there man I can't wait to

1224
01:01:40,130 --> 01:01:37,950
talk about this

1225
01:01:41,810 --> 01:01:40,140
this is fade to black I'm your host

1226
01:01:44,980 --> 01:01:41,820
Jimmy church we'll be right back with

1227
01:02:03,080 --> 01:01:44,990
Joshua P Warren stay with us

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01:02:08,330 --> 01:02:05,850
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all right welcome back happy UFO day

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world UFO day I'm here Jim Peters this

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Joshua on this world UFO day that's an

1305
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:10,450
incredible story that was broke by Fox

1306
01:06:21,060 --> 01:06:14,770
and it came came did it come via

1307
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:21,070
mysterious universe no that story was it

1308
01:06:26,940 --> 01:06:24,160
was originally covered by the local Fox

1309
01:06:29,850 --> 01:06:26,950
affiliate Fox 5 here in Las Vegas and

1310
01:06:32,430 --> 01:06:29,860
then over the past six days it has been

1311
01:06:35,930 --> 01:06:32,440
taking off it's been everywhere it made

1312
01:06:39,870 --> 01:06:35,940
news week and made Drudge Inside Edition

1313
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:39,880
CBS Los Angeles reddit I mean that's

1314
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:41,650
that's why I was saying at the beginning

1315
01:06:48,210 --> 01:06:43,330
of the show that over the past six days

1316
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:48,220
that I have just been slammed and and

1317
01:06:53,250 --> 01:06:50,710
that's why that you know today it

1318
01:06:56,750 --> 01:06:53,260
appearing on the main page of Fox News

1319
01:06:59,040 --> 01:06:56,760
is just the latest the latest

1320
01:07:00,690 --> 01:06:59,050
distribution and so I don't know where

1321
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:00,700
it's going to continue going but it

1322
01:07:04,890 --> 01:07:03,250
really took me by surprise I mean I

1323
01:07:06,750 --> 01:07:04,900
thought people would be interested in

1324
01:07:09,510 --> 01:07:06,760
this but the reaction has really been

1325
01:07:11,130 --> 01:07:09,520
unexpected now what okay so for those

1326
01:07:13,470 --> 01:07:11,140
that haven't read the story and you're

1327
01:07:16,410 --> 01:07:13,480
right by the way so today when I read

1328
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:16,420
the Fox story and I go and I do my

1329
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:19,630
vetting I twelve you know I just want to

1330
01:07:24,930 --> 01:07:22,030
see how it's how the legs are doing

1331
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:24,940
right and it's everywhere man and I

1332
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:29,770
thought oh geez you know Joshua's got to

1333
01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:31,810
be losing his mind and he told me

1334
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:34,630
there's a few days ago and it just it

1335
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:37,690
just took off man and I'm excited that

1336
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:40,570
the world wants to know about this now

1337
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:43,570
we kind of got to start with the basics

1338
01:07:47,799 --> 01:07:44,930
what happened

1339
01:07:51,069 --> 01:07:47,809
and what are we talking about and and

1340
01:07:52,930 --> 01:07:51,079
what is the dt meter yeah

1341
01:07:55,569 --> 01:07:52,940
and this actually does tie in very

1342
01:07:59,530 --> 01:07:55,579
nicely with UFOs as well that's right

1343
01:08:02,230 --> 01:07:59,540
yeah so you know I spend a good deal of

1344
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:02,240
time here in Las Vegas last year I was

1345
01:08:07,630 --> 01:08:05,569
here shooting a television program and

1346
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:07,640
then this year I was back shooting

1347
01:08:12,670 --> 01:08:09,770
another TV show and I produced an event

1348
01:08:14,500 --> 01:08:12,680
here and so I finally decided to just go

1349
01:08:17,229 --> 01:08:14,510
ahead and get a condo here

1350
01:08:21,579 --> 01:08:17,239
so that I can easily spend part of my

1351
01:08:24,519 --> 01:08:21,589
time here every year and I had never

1352
01:08:27,939 --> 01:08:24,529
been to area 51 and so I was looking for

1353
01:08:31,390 --> 01:08:27,949
an opportunity to go up there and it was

1354
01:08:34,570 --> 01:08:31,400
just fortuitous for me to be contacted

1355
01:08:37,689 --> 01:08:34,580
by a Silicon Valley engineer named

1356
01:08:40,780 --> 01:08:37,699
Ronald Heath who was excited to tell me

1357
01:08:43,630 --> 01:08:40,790
about a new meter that he had created

1358
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:43,640
now Ron Heath has turned on it he'd

1359
01:08:47,970 --> 01:08:45,410
emailed me on a number of occasions here

1360
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:47,980
and there over the years he's a great

1361
01:08:52,780 --> 01:08:50,960
technician and and he has developed all

1362
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:52,790
kinds of interesting electronic circuits

1363
01:08:59,919 --> 01:08:56,810
but he has always been fascinated with

1364
01:09:02,260 --> 01:08:59,929
the x-files and there is this one

1365
01:09:04,419 --> 01:09:02,270
episode in particular he said that he

1366
01:09:08,169 --> 01:09:04,429
thought was cool where Mulder takes out

1367
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:08,179
a stopwatch and he places it by his car

1368
01:09:13,570 --> 01:09:11,359
and then he walks to a UFO hot spot with

1369
01:09:15,970 --> 01:09:13,580
a second stopwatch and then later he

1370
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:15,980
compares the two to see if there's any

1371
01:09:21,309 --> 01:09:18,650
difference between them the idea being

1372
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:21,319
that if these UFOs in the area might be

1373
01:09:27,459 --> 01:09:24,410
using some gravity warping technology

1374
01:09:31,689 --> 01:09:27,469
then that should affect the flow of time

1375
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:31,699
to some degree and so he was looking for

1376
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:34,370
a a user-friendly device that would

1377
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:36,290
allow people to pretty much replicate

1378
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:38,690
that and so he made what's called a

1379
01:09:45,789 --> 01:09:41,600
differential time rate meter or DT meter

1380
01:09:48,039 --> 01:09:45,799
and it's actually quite simple to use on

1381
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,049
one end you have the meter which has got

1382
01:09:54,039 --> 01:09:50,719
a digital display that says zero point

1383
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,049
zero zero zero zero zero and then

1384
01:09:59,890 --> 01:09:56,719
that is hooked to a 100-foot cable and

1385
01:10:03,189 --> 01:09:59,900
on the end of the cable is a sensor that

1386
01:10:06,250 --> 01:10:03,199
is constantly sending a signal back to

1387
01:10:09,010 --> 01:10:06,260
the meter and that signal is always

1388
01:10:14,319 --> 01:10:09,020
supposed to get there at the same rate

1389
01:10:16,569 --> 01:10:14,329
of time at the same place and in fact

1390
01:10:18,189 --> 01:10:16,579
the only way that should deviate is if

1391
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:18,199
something major happened like a black

1392
01:10:22,660 --> 01:10:20,000
hole approached earth or something along

1393
01:10:25,810 --> 01:10:22,670
those lines so he asked me if I would

1394
01:10:29,250 --> 01:10:25,820
like to test this thing out because he

1395
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:29,260
has had two of them running for months

1396
01:10:34,780 --> 01:10:32,000
logging their data 24 hours a day in

1397
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:34,790
California and he's never recorded one

1398
01:10:41,049 --> 01:10:38,480
anomaly one deviation not once and and

1399
01:10:42,819 --> 01:10:41,059
in fact he kind of felt like he had

1400
01:10:44,859 --> 01:10:42,829
created a meter that's supposed to

1401
01:10:46,629 --> 01:10:44,869
really detect nothing you know it's

1402
01:10:48,910 --> 01:10:46,639
always supposed to give a normal zero

1403
01:10:51,879 --> 01:10:48,920
reading and it's got a good margin of

1404
01:10:53,169 --> 01:10:51,889
error built into it as well so I got a

1405
01:10:54,729 --> 01:10:53,179
hold of this thing and I became

1406
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:54,739
fascinated with it I thought well you

1407
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:57,770
know this may be a cool thing for me to

1408
01:11:01,000 --> 01:10:59,360
take to area 51 I'm the first

1409
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:01,010
investigator who's going to have the

1410
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:03,760
opportunity to use this in the field and

1411
01:11:08,530 --> 01:11:06,770
of course I couple years ago I was a

1412
01:11:11,169 --> 01:11:08,540
speaker at the International UFO

1413
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:11,179
Congress where a Bob Lazar spoke on

1414
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:13,130
stage and of course he's a controversial

1415
01:11:16,899 --> 01:11:14,690
character but Bob Lazar

1416
01:11:19,419 --> 01:11:16,909
he stated that when he was working at

1417
01:11:21,580 --> 01:11:19,429
area 51 he was tasked with

1418
01:11:24,220 --> 01:11:21,590
back-engineering these engines that

1419
01:11:26,140 --> 01:11:24,230
would manipulate gravity and time that

1420
01:11:27,250 --> 01:11:26,150
for example you could take one engine

1421
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:27,260
that wasn't much bigger than a

1422
01:11:32,530 --> 01:11:30,320
basketball and you could put a candle

1423
01:11:34,540 --> 01:11:32,540
next to it and the candle flame would

1424
01:11:36,609 --> 01:11:34,550
freeze into there the flickering would

1425
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:36,619
stop that sort of thing so I thought

1426
01:11:41,169 --> 01:11:39,050
well this meter is so sensitive

1427
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:41,179
perhaps if I make a trip hundreds of

1428
01:11:46,450 --> 01:11:44,449
miles north up to area 51 and stop

1429
01:11:50,589 --> 01:11:46,460
occasionally along the way to take

1430
01:11:52,419 --> 01:11:50,599
readings I can compare and see if you

1431
01:11:53,799 --> 01:11:52,429
start to get anything weird as you get

1432
01:11:56,799 --> 01:11:53,809
closer to area 51

1433
01:11:58,720 --> 01:11:56,809
so I frankly had envisioned that it

1434
01:12:00,609 --> 01:11:58,730
would be normal normal normal and then

1435
01:12:02,049 --> 01:12:00,619
maybe the the farther north I got

1436
01:12:03,370 --> 01:12:02,059
suddenly something would you know I'd

1437
01:12:04,510 --> 01:12:03,380
get a deviation that's what I was

1438
01:12:07,900 --> 01:12:04,520
thinking whoa

1439
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:07,910
well let me jump in because this is what

1440
01:12:14,350 --> 01:12:10,610
I know what you just stated but what

1441
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:14,360
were your honest expectations well I

1442
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:17,570
know that as he was telling me the guy

1443
01:12:22,510 --> 01:12:19,520
who built it himself was telling me it's

1444
01:12:26,140 --> 01:12:22,520
not supposed to pick up any type of

1445
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:26,150
anomaly so I if I had to bet on it and I

1446
01:12:30,820 --> 01:12:29,360
am a gambling man then I would have bet

1447
01:12:32,650 --> 01:12:30,830
that it's not going to show anything

1448
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:32,660
because I had already tested it on a

1449
01:12:38,590 --> 01:12:34,930
number of occasions right within my

1450
01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:38,600
neighborhood in Las Vegas and and it

1451
01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:40,910
always worked very reliably it's easy to

1452
01:12:46,330 --> 01:12:44,720
calibrate I've never gotten it one

1453
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:46,340
single weird reading so I wasn't

1454
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,050
expecting that and if anything and I

1455
01:12:51,490 --> 01:12:50,000
thought there was a better chance that I

1456
01:12:53,050 --> 01:12:51,500
would go up to area 51 with night-vision

1457
01:12:56,890 --> 01:12:53,060
goggles and maybe see something weird

1458
01:12:59,530 --> 01:12:56,900
flying around right right right so so my

1459
01:13:02,710 --> 01:12:59,540
wife and I was just the two of us we

1460
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:02,720
took a trip to area 51 we stayed

1461
01:13:06,130 --> 01:13:04,850
overnight you know you for those who

1462
01:13:08,590 --> 01:13:06,140
aren't familiar with the lay of the land

1463
01:13:10,510 --> 01:13:08,600
there's this the town of Rachel up there

1464
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:10,520
where you have the little alien and you

1465
01:13:14,350 --> 01:13:12,650
can go past that the town of Rachel is

1466
01:13:16,030 --> 01:13:14,360
the closest one to what they call area

1467
01:13:18,580 --> 01:13:16,040
51 but then there's another town along

1468
01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:18,590
the way called Alamo where we decided to

1469
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:20,450
stay it's a little closer to

1470
01:13:24,430 --> 01:13:21,170
civilization

1471
01:13:26,230 --> 01:13:24,440
for the night but anyway point is on the

1472
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:26,240
way up there and back I was taking

1473
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:30,080
readings and the only place that I got

1474
01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:33,650
anything unusual was at this sort of

1475
01:13:40,410 --> 01:13:36,710
nondescript spot on the side of the road

1476
01:13:45,970 --> 01:13:40,420
about 20 miles north of Vegas between I

1477
01:13:48,460 --> 01:13:45,980
15 and Route 93 and in fact heading

1478
01:13:50,590 --> 01:13:48,470
north we would have pulled over to take

1479
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:50,600
a measurement sooner but they were doing

1480
01:13:54,190 --> 01:13:52,610
road construction and there were traffic

1481
01:13:56,620 --> 01:13:54,200
cones on the side of the road and so

1482
01:13:58,480 --> 01:13:56,630
that was creating an obstacle for us for

1483
01:14:00,010 --> 01:13:58,490
a ways so as soon as we had a clear

1484
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:00,020
angle we pulled over on the side of the

1485
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:01,610
road I took out a bunch of instruments I

1486
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:04,400
had Geiger counters and try filled

1487
01:14:08,710 --> 01:14:06,130
naturally a meters and such and

1488
01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:08,720
everything was normal so yeah we

1489
01:14:14,620 --> 01:14:11,120
stretched this coil out and all of a

1490
01:14:17,609 --> 01:14:14,630
sudden boom I get this reading showing

1491
01:14:21,020 --> 01:14:17,619
that according to this meter

1492
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:21,030
time has actually slowed down by 20

1493
01:14:27,660 --> 01:14:24,250
microseconds now what that means is that

1494
01:14:30,629 --> 01:14:27,670
if you take a second and you split it

1495
01:14:33,689 --> 01:14:30,639
into a hundred thousand pieces one of

1496
01:14:36,270 --> 01:14:33,699
those little slices is a microsecond and

1497
01:14:38,729 --> 01:14:36,280
so the meter showed that time had

1498
01:14:41,660 --> 01:14:38,739
actually slowed for 20 microseconds I

1499
01:14:44,370 --> 01:14:41,670
was like what I mean it was immediately

1500
01:14:46,050 --> 01:14:44,380
astounding because I had never seen it

1501
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:46,060
do anything else and I never saw it ever

1502
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:47,290
do anything else like that

1503
01:14:52,620 --> 01:14:50,080
so I took a note of that of course and I

1504
01:14:55,589 --> 01:14:52,630
recorded everything and then when I got

1505
01:14:57,450 --> 01:14:55,599
back I contacted Ron Heath and he

1506
01:14:58,680 --> 01:14:57,460
flipped out he couldn't believe it I

1507
01:15:00,270 --> 01:14:58,690
mean he said I you know again I've been

1508
01:15:03,899 --> 01:15:00,280
running these things for months and I've

1509
01:15:07,410 --> 01:15:03,909
never seen anything like that and so it

1510
01:15:09,839 --> 01:15:07,420
just so happens that that spot in the

1511
01:15:12,839 --> 01:15:09,849
desert where I got in this reading is

1512
01:15:15,260 --> 01:15:12,849
one of the most prominent UFO hot spots

1513
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:15,270
around Las Vegas where some of the most

1514
01:15:21,359 --> 01:15:18,730
extraordinary lights are filmed at night

1515
01:15:23,970 --> 01:15:21,369
and if you want to see some examples of

1516
01:15:26,490 --> 01:15:23,980
this if you go to my website Joshua P

1517
01:15:28,979 --> 01:15:26,500
Warren comm you can click a link at the

1518
01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:28,989
top to my report on this I did a video

1519
01:15:35,070 --> 01:15:31,270
report just like I did with the O UFOs

1520
01:15:37,379 --> 01:15:35,080
and I actually show some of the UFO

1521
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:37,389
footage that has been captured in this

1522
01:15:41,609 --> 01:15:40,690
same area and I thought to myself well

1523
01:15:44,459 --> 01:15:41,619
Wow

1524
01:15:46,620 --> 01:15:44,469
wouldn't it be something if as we

1525
01:15:48,689 --> 01:15:46,630
continue this and this is the very first

1526
01:15:51,149 --> 01:15:48,699
step by the way because there are people

1527
01:15:52,830 --> 01:15:51,159
who are criticizing me saying well come

1528
01:15:55,709 --> 01:15:52,840
on you just have one point of data well

1529
01:15:58,500 --> 01:15:55,719
that's true but that's how you start the

1530
01:16:01,290 --> 01:15:58,510
investigation you know I am now going to

1531
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:01,300
travel all around this area seeing if

1532
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:03,250
there are other anomalies which might

1533
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:05,530
also coincide with places where people

1534
01:16:09,930 --> 01:16:07,840
are seeing UFOs and for that matter

1535
01:16:13,140 --> 01:16:09,940
having any kind of paranormal experience

1536
01:16:16,379 --> 01:16:13,150
because I have believed for many years

1537
01:16:18,899 --> 01:16:16,389
the time is an integral component to

1538
01:16:21,149 --> 01:16:18,909
understanding these strange phenomena in

1539
01:16:23,550 --> 01:16:21,159
fact 10 years ago I wrote a book called

1540
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:23,560
the secret wisdom of kukulcan in which I

1541
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:24,730
posited something called the

1542
01:16:28,979 --> 01:16:27,040
paratemporal loop hypothesis which sort

1543
01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:28,989
of looked at the relationship between

1544
01:16:33,850 --> 01:16:30,560
time and

1545
01:16:37,150 --> 01:16:33,860
and UFOs and cryptids and ghosts and ESP

1546
01:16:39,250 --> 01:16:37,160
and all that stuff so um so basically I

1547
01:16:41,500 --> 01:16:39,260
put this little report together mainly

1548
01:16:44,170 --> 01:16:41,510
to keep my audience informed because I

1549
01:16:46,150 --> 01:16:44,180
have a daily podcast that I do just on

1550
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:46,160
my website I have a good deal of

1551
01:16:50,530 --> 01:16:48,110
listeners and I keep them informed and

1552
01:16:53,650 --> 01:16:50,540
so I put it together mainly to show them

1553
01:16:57,310 --> 01:16:53,660
what happened and then I got contacted

1554
01:16:59,260 --> 01:16:57,320
by the news because they had heard me on

1555
01:17:01,600 --> 01:16:59,270
coast to coast day I mentioned that I

1556
01:17:04,420 --> 01:17:01,610
was going to do some experiments in the

1557
01:17:06,330 --> 01:17:04,430
area and I shared it with them they

1558
01:17:09,970 --> 01:17:06,340
wanted to go back out to the spot I

1559
01:17:11,890 --> 01:17:09,980
showed them exactly what I did and they

1560
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:11,900
put this you know nice segments together

1561
01:17:16,810 --> 01:17:14,690
and then all of a sudden boom that thing

1562
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:16,820
just went all over the world and that's

1563
01:17:21,310 --> 01:17:18,800
why I'm saying that I think that this is

1564
01:17:23,500 --> 01:17:21,320
how any kind of disclosure that happens

1565
01:17:26,650 --> 01:17:23,510
will probably happen because nowadays it

1566
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:26,660
is so easy if if a story has got some

1567
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:29,210
real legs for it to blow up and go all

1568
01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:33,970
over the the planet now 20 microseconds

1569
01:17:40,150 --> 01:17:37,490
two things come to mind one is it

1570
01:17:43,330 --> 01:17:40,160
doesn't sound like much the other side

1571
01:17:46,990 --> 01:17:43,340
of it is holy crap that's a ginormous

1572
01:17:50,850 --> 01:17:47,000
amount of time yeah in the scientific

1573
01:17:54,610 --> 01:17:50,860
sense what do you think is going on well

1574
01:17:59,740 --> 01:17:54,620
if I am going to predict for what it's

1575
01:18:01,870 --> 01:17:59,750
worth that we really have many more of

1576
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:01,880
these little anomalies around Earth than

1577
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:04,970
we even think we do one of the reasons I

1578
01:18:09,970 --> 01:18:07,610
say that is because up until now most

1579
01:18:11,890 --> 01:18:09,980
people have not had access to a

1580
01:18:14,170 --> 01:18:11,900
user-friendly device that they can take

1581
01:18:16,660 --> 01:18:14,180
out to do measurements now that this

1582
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:16,670
device exists and people are going to

1583
01:18:19,930 --> 01:18:18,050
start running around and measuring

1584
01:18:21,940 --> 01:18:19,940
things I think we're gonna find all

1585
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:21,950
kinds of little anomalies around planet

1586
01:18:26,650 --> 01:18:23,570
Earth and that shouldn't be that

1587
01:18:31,030 --> 01:18:26,660
surprising because NASA has documented

1588
01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:31,040
this I mean in 2004 they had a project

1589
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:33,920
called gravity probe B where they went

1590
01:18:38,020 --> 01:18:35,570
around the earth and they were measuring

1591
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:38,030
the curvature of space-time around the

1592
01:18:43,970 --> 01:18:41,330
earth and of course it's it's uneven I

1593
01:18:46,580 --> 01:18:43,980
mean that's why if you go to

1594
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:46,590
Google and you type in NASA gravity map

1595
01:18:51,020 --> 01:18:48,210
you'll see these maps that are

1596
01:18:56,150 --> 01:18:51,030
color-coded and red and blue and that's

1597
01:18:57,650 --> 01:18:56,160
because some places are are weaker on

1598
01:19:00,080 --> 01:18:57,660
earth to have a weaker gravitational

1599
01:19:02,900 --> 01:19:00,090
field they're coated in blue some places

1600
01:19:05,780 --> 01:19:02,910
are stronger which are coated in red or

1601
01:19:07,190 --> 01:19:05,790
orange and what you tend to find is that

1602
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:07,200
places where you have a weaker

1603
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:09,810
gravitational field we have more reports

1604
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:12,210
of paranormal activity so again this is

1605
01:19:18,410 --> 01:19:14,880
not completely earth-shattering the idea

1606
01:19:20,930 --> 01:19:18,420
that the space and time is inconsistent

1607
01:19:23,810 --> 01:19:20,940
around planet Earth it's just weird to

1608
01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:23,820
think that you can go to one spot and in

1609
01:19:28,370 --> 01:19:26,310
a moment boom something happens that

1610
01:19:29,780 --> 01:19:28,380
changes the flow of time and I guess you

1611
01:19:32,300 --> 01:19:29,790
could say technically speaking

1612
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:32,310
even though 20 microseconds is a very

1613
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:34,530
very small period of time I think you

1614
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:36,510
could say that we sort of travelled back

1615
01:19:40,670 --> 01:19:38,640
in time for 20 microseconds you know

1616
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:40,680
that's exactly what happened there's no

1617
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:43,920
other way to explain it and the fact is

1618
01:19:49,130 --> 01:19:46,410
very simple it should not happen it's

1619
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:49,140
it's really that simple yeah that's

1620
01:19:54,890 --> 01:19:52,290
right it should not happen again this

1621
01:19:56,660 --> 01:19:54,900
device is you know it's a well made

1622
01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:56,670
device it's been calibrated is it

1623
01:20:00,500 --> 01:19:58,320
possible that there's some problem with

1624
01:20:02,270 --> 01:20:00,510
the device well certainly anything's

1625
01:20:04,220 --> 01:20:02,280
possible I mean that's why we continue

1626
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:04,230
doing these experiments but what I can

1627
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:06,930
tell you for now is that it is always

1628
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:09,690
behaved exactly as it ought to and so

1629
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:11,850
for this to happen at this spot where

1630
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:13,770
people are seeing UFOs makes me think

1631
01:20:22,250 --> 01:20:16,880
one of two things is going on either

1632
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:22,260
there is some kind of technology that is

1633
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:25,370
exotic that's being at least

1634
01:20:31,010 --> 01:20:27,360
experimented with or something like that

1635
01:20:33,470 --> 01:20:31,020
in that particular area north of Vegas

1636
01:20:37,810 --> 01:20:33,480
I'm on the way to area 51 which could

1637
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:37,820
create this or there are UFOs zipping by

1638
01:20:43,450 --> 01:20:40,170
occasionally that give you a little blip

1639
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:43,460
or that this is just a natural property

1640
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:46,290
of planet Earth and that you have places

1641
01:20:50,060 --> 01:20:48,510
like the Bermuda Triangle you have

1642
01:20:51,260 --> 01:20:50,070
places like brown mountain where the

1643
01:20:53,450 --> 01:20:51,270
Brown Mountain lights are seen in

1644
01:20:55,799 --> 01:20:53,460
Western North Carolina where these

1645
01:20:58,470 --> 01:20:55,809
lights will often appear

1646
01:21:00,689 --> 01:20:58,480
at certain times that give you the

1647
01:21:04,109 --> 01:21:00,699
impression you might be glimpsing or

1648
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:04,119
peering into another dimension and so

1649
01:21:08,430 --> 01:21:06,610
perhaps when this sort of wavering

1650
01:21:10,799 --> 01:21:08,440
occurs it's almost like a spacetime

1651
01:21:12,810 --> 01:21:10,809
storm that might occur once in a while

1652
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:12,820
on planet Earth

1653
01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:15,520
it has its own form of energy and you're

1654
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:17,320
able to get a glimpse of that well and

1655
01:21:22,649 --> 01:21:19,570
then you have other special sites of

1656
01:21:25,549 --> 01:21:22,659
course you know like Joshua Tree or ESET

1657
01:21:29,819 --> 01:21:25,559
e ranch or the Giza Plateau

1658
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:29,829
Stonehenge Machu Picchu where there

1659
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:31,570
might be something interesting going on

1660
01:21:36,330 --> 01:21:34,000
too as well do you plan on on traveling

1661
01:21:39,089 --> 01:21:36,340
to these other special sites oh I

1662
01:21:43,290 --> 01:21:39,099
certainly do in fact that's order Rico

1663
01:21:46,589 --> 01:21:43,300
Puerto Rico yeah I mean I now can can

1664
01:21:47,939 --> 01:21:46,599
essentially go back and revisit all of

1665
01:21:50,339 --> 01:21:47,949
these places that I've studied

1666
01:21:52,350 --> 01:21:50,349
throughout my career if you want to call

1667
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:52,360
it that as a paranormal investigator and

1668
01:21:56,399 --> 01:21:54,610
that's really exciting because you get

1669
01:21:59,129 --> 01:21:56,409
to the point sometimes where you say

1670
01:22:00,000 --> 01:21:59,139
well I only have so many tools to work

1671
01:22:01,589 --> 01:22:00,010
with you know you got your

1672
01:22:03,540 --> 01:22:01,599
electromagnetic field meters your

1673
01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:03,550
electrostatic stuff your Geiger counters

1674
01:22:09,209 --> 01:22:06,719
you've got your infrared cameras etc etc

1675
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:09,219
everybody kind of has access to the same

1676
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:13,449
stuff but now we have something new that

1677
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:15,489
we can take out that we can experiment

1678
01:22:19,770 --> 01:22:18,250
with and this is all experimental but

1679
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:19,780
the very fact that there's been this

1680
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:22,840
just giant explosion of international

1681
01:22:26,490 --> 01:22:23,770
interest and I mean this has been

1682
01:22:31,470 --> 01:22:26,500
covered in China and Russia and all over

1683
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:31,480
the place it shows you that people may

1684
01:22:36,290 --> 01:22:33,610
be a little wishy-washy or perhaps even

1685
01:22:39,779 --> 01:22:36,300
a little burned out when it comes to

1686
01:22:41,370 --> 01:22:39,789
UFOs and and ghosts and things like that

1687
01:22:42,930 --> 01:22:41,380
because they get fatigued they get

1688
01:22:46,260 --> 01:22:42,940
frustrated that they're not being told

1689
01:22:49,169 --> 01:22:46,270
more and you know they move on but this

1690
01:22:51,290 --> 01:22:49,179
is something that captures a lot of

1691
01:22:53,879 --> 01:22:51,300
people's imaginations whether they be

1692
01:22:56,899 --> 01:22:53,889
mainstream scientists or they just be

1693
01:22:59,729 --> 01:22:56,909
you know hobbyists and amateur explorers

1694
01:23:03,330 --> 01:22:59,739
because everybody realizes that this is

1695
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:03,340
one of the most extraordinary aspects of

1696
01:23:09,930 --> 01:23:07,090
reality that you know Einstein helped to

1697
01:23:12,420 --> 01:23:09,940
introduce us to over a hundred year

1698
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:12,430
ago and at first everybody thought he

1699
01:23:16,380 --> 01:23:15,010
was wacko and it turns out they were

1700
01:23:18,420 --> 01:23:16,390
able to prove again and again

1701
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:18,430
experimentally that he was correct so

1702
01:23:23,250 --> 01:23:20,290
now we're realizing okay there's

1703
01:23:25,710 --> 01:23:23,260
something to this this idea that time is

1704
01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:25,720
a flexible thing and that's a weird

1705
01:23:29,730 --> 01:23:27,910
concept and that might give us some

1706
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:29,740
answers to some of these questions by

1707
01:23:34,710 --> 01:23:31,840
looking at them from a different and new

1708
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:34,720
perspective were you able to repeat I

1709
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:36,730
want to go back actually to what you

1710
01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:39,810
said it could be maybe the meter

1711
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:43,990
misfired did you go up the road and it

1712
01:23:48,420 --> 01:23:46,210
ran correctly and did you come back to

1713
01:23:51,210 --> 01:23:48,430
point you're calling it Vista right I

1714
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:51,220
think yeah the Vegas interstate time

1715
01:24:00,390 --> 01:23:57,370
anomaly yeah so did you did you test and

1716
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:00,400
confirm retest oh yeah absolutely I

1717
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:03,370
tested it over and over on the way there

1718
01:24:09,440 --> 01:24:05,920
and back and then again when I went back

1719
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:09,450
with the television news crew and

1720
01:24:14,490 --> 01:24:12,400
everything was normal so it just goes to

1721
01:24:19,860 --> 01:24:14,500
show that you know this was truly an

1722
01:24:23,130 --> 01:24:19,870
anomaly now I believed that because the

1723
01:24:25,380 --> 01:24:23,140
meter worked so well and every other

1724
01:24:27,620 --> 01:24:25,390
instance and not just mine but the

1725
01:24:30,420 --> 01:24:27,630
others that exist in California and

1726
01:24:32,910 --> 01:24:30,430
because that we already know thanks to

1727
01:24:34,710 --> 01:24:32,920
scientists at NASA and some of the work

1728
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:34,720
by Einstein and Stephen Hawking that

1729
01:24:40,770 --> 01:24:37,810
time is flexible then it's not really

1730
01:24:43,020 --> 01:24:40,780
that shocking for me to think that this

1731
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:43,030
was how it's being presented in the

1732
01:24:49,260 --> 01:24:46,090
media this was in fact a documentation

1733
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:49,270
of a time anomaly and you know the first

1734
01:24:54,020 --> 01:24:51,040
step in the scientific method is to

1735
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:54,030
observe and so this is my first

1736
01:24:58,410 --> 01:24:56,770
opportunity to go out and collect some

1737
01:25:02,610 --> 01:24:58,420
data but I'm going to continue doing

1738
01:25:06,750 --> 01:25:02,620
that there was years and years ago on

1739
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:06,760
the show I had a caller that told us a

1740
01:25:13,860 --> 01:25:11,110
story on vacation I'll tell you the very

1741
01:25:17,310 --> 01:25:13,870
very abridged version of it so they go

1742
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:17,320
out there at a point at a viewpoint

1743
01:25:22,850 --> 01:25:19,330
where there's a sign in front of them

1744
01:25:27,310 --> 01:25:22,860
and she's reading the sign you know

1745
01:25:29,899 --> 01:25:27,320
park service at this point you know in

1746
01:25:33,709 --> 01:25:29,909
1860 there was something that happened

1747
01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:33,719
across this river and she says while she

1748
01:25:38,660 --> 01:25:35,760
was standing there she looks across the

1749
01:25:41,959 --> 01:25:38,670
river and she sees a reenactment going

1750
01:25:44,540 --> 01:25:41,969
on covered wagons a couple of campfires

1751
01:25:45,770 --> 01:25:44,550
some cooking some families some things

1752
01:25:48,530 --> 01:25:45,780
some horses right

1753
01:25:49,220 --> 01:25:48,540
and she thought wow that looks that's so

1754
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:49,230
cool

1755
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:52,050
they're re-enacting what I'm reading on

1756
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:54,330
this point right on this plate you know

1757
01:26:00,080 --> 01:25:57,170
on this what he called MOT is stand and

1758
01:26:03,109 --> 01:26:00,090
very cool so she goes turns around to go

1759
01:26:04,609 --> 01:26:03,119
get her family and to you know show them

1760
01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:04,619
what's going on across the river this

1761
01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:06,480
reenactment the family comes back she

1762
01:26:12,290 --> 01:26:10,320
looks it's gone it's gone yeah the

1763
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,300
covered wagons are gone the campfires

1764
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:14,400
are gone the smoke is gone the horses

1765
01:26:20,300 --> 01:26:16,170
are gone and it was just a minute later

1766
01:26:23,689 --> 01:26:20,310
it could this be evidence of what you

1767
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:23,699
have discovered oh I believe so because

1768
01:26:30,430 --> 01:26:26,400
you know when I started out writing

1769
01:26:33,500 --> 01:26:30,440
books many of my books were about ghosts

1770
01:26:36,140 --> 01:26:33,510
including a book I published called how

1771
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:36,150
to hunt ghosts in 2003 was a Simon &

1772
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:38,480
Schuster publication and I broke down

1773
01:26:44,899 --> 01:26:42,449
different types of ghosts and one of

1774
01:26:47,959 --> 01:26:44,909
them is associated with time warps time

1775
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:47,969
slips because you know it's one thing if

1776
01:26:54,590 --> 01:26:51,570
someone sees what appears to be a person

1777
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:54,600
or an apparition that's out of its place

1778
01:27:01,250 --> 01:26:57,210
in time it's another thing to see an

1779
01:27:03,649 --> 01:27:01,260
entire setting so that is to say instead

1780
01:27:06,410 --> 01:27:03,659
of seeing this the creepy Specter

1781
01:27:08,270 --> 01:27:06,420
standing in the back bedroom you walk in

1782
01:27:10,700 --> 01:27:08,280
and the entire bedroom looks different

1783
01:27:12,500 --> 01:27:10,710
as it did in the 1800s for a second and

1784
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:12,510
there may even be an occasion where the

1785
01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:14,330
person that you're looking at appears to

1786
01:27:21,470 --> 01:27:17,280
to see you as well

1787
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:21,480
and so this is indeed a very interesting

1788
01:27:25,790 --> 01:27:24,330
type of anomaly in fact I've talked to a

1789
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:25,800
number of people who personally

1790
01:27:34,189 --> 01:27:30,810
experienced this and it may be that you

1791
01:27:36,620 --> 01:27:34,199
know we have to accept that the human

1792
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:36,630
brain which is the most mysterious

1793
01:27:42,350 --> 01:27:40,130
thing that we can comprehend I guess is

1794
01:27:45,410 --> 01:27:42,360
really the product of a bunch of

1795
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:45,420
subatomic particles sort of firing and

1796
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:46,650
crackling all the time

1797
01:27:53,180 --> 01:27:48,810
and those tiny little particles they can

1798
01:27:57,950 --> 01:27:53,190
be influenced by some of the smallest

1799
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:57,960
most subtle forces and so it's you know

1800
01:28:00,530 --> 01:27:59,360
you'd say you take something like twenty

1801
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:00,540
microseconds

1802
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:03,090
that doesn't sound like much but if it

1803
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:05,489
might be a gigantic shift and how the

1804
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:07,920
brain is able to perceive things for

1805
01:28:14,450 --> 01:28:11,520
five seconds and so what we have to look

1806
01:28:16,879 --> 01:28:14,460
at here is not only the idea that the

1807
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:16,889
environment might be physically affected

1808
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:19,050
and changed by the presence of these

1809
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:21,690
time anomalies but also that it may

1810
01:28:27,410 --> 01:28:23,760
change the way we are able to perceive

1811
01:28:30,830 --> 01:28:27,420
reality itself and therefore you end up

1812
01:28:33,020 --> 01:28:30,840
with people seeing ghosts that are out

1813
01:28:34,459 --> 01:28:33,030
of place in time along with the entire

1814
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:34,469
setting because they're literally

1815
01:28:40,820 --> 01:28:37,110
looking back through a window or a

1816
01:28:45,379 --> 01:28:40,830
gateway into the past could could it be

1817
01:28:47,930 --> 01:28:45,389
some type of natural recording yeah I

1818
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:47,940
think that there's a very good chance

1819
01:28:54,770 --> 01:28:52,290
that the environment actually does

1820
01:28:58,700 --> 01:28:54,780
naturally record everything that happens

1821
01:29:02,200 --> 01:28:58,710
and if we had the opportunity to to sort

1822
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:02,210
of play that back then wow that would be

1823
01:29:07,850 --> 01:29:04,370
astounding because we would be able to

1824
01:29:10,459 --> 01:29:07,860
observe history as it actually occurred

1825
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:10,469
at very least on this particular

1826
01:29:16,459 --> 01:29:14,010
timeline and so that's actually one of

1827
01:29:18,500 --> 01:29:16,469
the more technical goals of ghost

1828
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:18,510
research is to think that we might be

1829
01:29:25,850 --> 01:29:23,130
able to eventually find a way to to be

1830
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,860
able to look back in time and so that's

1831
01:29:31,820 --> 01:29:27,600
where you get the idea of imprints and

1832
01:29:33,970 --> 01:29:31,830
residuals and that also makes you think

1833
01:29:37,550 --> 01:29:33,980
about you know the concept that perhaps

1834
01:29:40,970 --> 01:29:37,560
all of the environment around us is

1835
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:40,980
composed of little little blocks that

1836
01:29:48,620 --> 01:29:44,570
are almost like RFID chips that can be

1837
01:29:49,490 --> 01:29:48,630
influenced by whatever energy happens to

1838
01:29:51,500 --> 01:29:49,500
manifest

1839
01:29:54,710 --> 01:29:51,510
around them right and that at certain

1840
01:29:57,790 --> 01:29:54,720
times under certain circumstances those

1841
01:30:01,130 --> 01:29:57,800
RFID chips can send that signal back and

1842
01:30:04,550 --> 01:30:01,140
and some people are perhaps better at

1843
01:30:07,220 --> 01:30:04,560
observing that but but certainly this

1844
01:30:10,610 --> 01:30:07,230
applies directly to ghostly phenomena

1845
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:10,620
and it applies very easily to UFOs you

1846
01:30:15,620 --> 01:30:13,050
know we have the situation where a UFO

1847
01:30:18,230 --> 01:30:15,630
appears over a car and the car stops and

1848
01:30:20,060 --> 01:30:18,240
then the UFO flies away and the car is

1849
01:30:23,300 --> 01:30:20,070
running again didn't have to turn the

1850
01:30:25,580 --> 01:30:23,310
ignition it's as if time stopped or with

1851
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:25,590
cryptids people saying a cryptid just

1852
01:30:29,570 --> 01:30:26,970
sort of vanishes in the middle of the

1853
01:30:31,610 --> 01:30:29,580
path well if that cryptid changed its

1854
01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:31,620
position in space and space-time are

1855
01:30:36,230 --> 01:30:34,080
related well now it's manipulating time

1856
01:30:38,420 --> 01:30:36,240
or somehow being influenced by time and

1857
01:30:40,370 --> 01:30:38,430
psychic phenomena people are often

1858
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:40,380
seeing what's happened in the past or

1859
01:30:45,530 --> 01:30:43,050
the future with precognition or post

1860
01:30:48,710 --> 01:30:45,540
cognition and so so time is an integral

1861
01:30:50,690 --> 01:30:48,720
component here that seems to be

1862
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:50,700
distributed among all of these different

1863
01:30:54,710 --> 01:30:53,370
types of things that we consider the

1864
01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:54,720
paranormal the mysterious the

1865
01:30:59,470 --> 01:30:56,880
unexplained you know we've got one

1866
01:31:03,500 --> 01:30:59,480
minute before the break and this is what

1867
01:31:06,710 --> 01:31:03,510
I'm imagining here in this time warp

1868
01:31:11,660 --> 01:31:06,720
zone in this circle where you read Vista

1869
01:31:14,810 --> 01:31:11,670
that if you sod shift just enough that

1870
01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:14,820
maybe you would see a double of yourself

1871
01:31:19,970 --> 01:31:16,560
I mean just you know like I just a

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slightly behind you and your wife and

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01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:22,140
maybe you would hear something too as

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01:31:27,650 --> 01:31:25,050
well you know a doubling effect even

1875
01:31:30,050 --> 01:31:27,660
though it's 20 microseconds but what if

1876
01:31:34,490 --> 01:31:30,060
you hit something even broader than that

1877
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:34,500
that you would be seeing double well I

1878
01:31:38,870 --> 01:31:36,480
and that is certainly possible and it

1879
01:31:41,870 --> 01:31:38,880
has also been reported throughout

1880
01:31:44,540 --> 01:31:41,880
history as another type of ghostly

1881
01:31:46,910 --> 01:31:44,550
manifestation there was one incident and

1882
01:31:50,060 --> 01:31:46,920
I believe the 1800s in which an entire

1883
01:31:52,010 --> 01:31:50,070
classroom of kids started squealing

1884
01:31:54,470 --> 01:31:52,020
because they were watching the teacher

1885
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:54,480
write something on the chalkboard at the

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01:32:00,440 --> 01:31:56,250
head of the class and suddenly the

1887
01:32:02,810 --> 01:32:00,450
teacher split into two ladies doing the

1888
01:32:06,860 --> 01:32:02,820
identical thing side by side and then

1889
01:32:08,750 --> 01:32:06,870
merge back in into one person so you you

1890
01:32:10,970 --> 01:32:08,760
have that you also could call that

1891
01:32:13,460 --> 01:32:10,980
similar to a doppelganger type effect

1892
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:13,470
right but definitely you you might be

1893
01:32:19,340 --> 01:32:16,290
able to observe yourself from another

1894
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:19,350
point in time and that's pretty freaky

1895
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:22,110
stuff I want to go out with you we need

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01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:25,530
to go and and and find one of these

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points I'm demand man I am so there

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Joshua our guest tonight on this world

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UFO day is Joshua P Warren more with

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Joshua right after this short break

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way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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you're listening to fade to black always

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in plain English means you won't get

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with Jimmy Church on the game changer

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Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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welcome back fade to black I'm you know

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Jimmy Church our guest tonight on this

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world UFO day is Joshua P Warren the

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there Jim eater Troy do compro mo code

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01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:09,340
is Jimmy let's get back to Joshua Joshua

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01:37:16,730 --> 01:37:13,810
on this world UFO day we've got so many

1980
01:37:21,330 --> 01:37:16,740
different aspects of the UFO question

1981
01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:21,340
that I think science needs to apply

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01:37:28,230 --> 01:37:25,450
themselves to and which they want to

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01:37:32,580 --> 01:37:28,240
back off I agree with you that today we

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01:37:35,730 --> 01:37:32,590
understand how how infested this this

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01:37:38,670 --> 01:37:35,740
galaxy is of ours and the universe with

1986
01:37:41,190 --> 01:37:38,680
planets with stars that we didn't even

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01:37:43,770 --> 01:37:41,200
understand this as little as 20 years

1988
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:43,780
ago now we have kepler we have Hubble we

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01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:45,970
are able to observe what is really going

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01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:47,890
on out there and the numbers are

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01:37:57,090 --> 01:37:52,450
daunting dauntingly huge infinite

1992
01:38:00,330 --> 01:37:57,100
numbers right just crazy so that states

1993
01:38:03,900 --> 01:38:00,340
that there's it's impossible that we are

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01:38:07,700 --> 01:38:03,910
alone but then we have abductions and

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01:38:10,380 --> 01:38:07,710
contact by the millions on this planet

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01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:10,390
and that it's two different things we

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01:38:16,830 --> 01:38:14,170
have contact and then we have abductions

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01:38:20,460 --> 01:38:16,840
let's start with contact with people

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01:38:24,420 --> 01:38:20,470
that are communicating with or have seen

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01:38:26,220 --> 01:38:24,430
things that are definitely offworld what

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01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:26,230
do you think is actually happening there

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01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:29,290
are we are we being visited and have we

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01:38:36,810 --> 01:38:31,930
had contact with literally millions and

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01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:36,820
millions of people well every time I'm

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01:38:42,810 --> 01:38:40,000
watching some kind of nature documentary

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01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:42,820
and some scientists that have been

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01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:44,170
sitting around in the bushes

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01:38:51,090 --> 01:38:48,400
for months observing some creature with

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01:38:53,670 --> 01:38:51,100
binoculars finally decides to

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01:38:57,090 --> 01:38:53,680
beep out and snatch it up and tag it and

2011
01:39:01,250 --> 01:38:57,100
all that sort of thing I think well why

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01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:01,260
do we humans have such an egotistical

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01:39:10,170 --> 01:39:04,810
attitude that we think this might not

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01:39:13,170 --> 01:39:10,180
also be happening to us and in fact if

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01:39:15,780 --> 01:39:13,180
you want to get sinister about it you

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01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:15,790
could say that there are no towels on

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01:39:22,290 --> 01:39:18,400
planet earth that know that people eat

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01:39:24,450 --> 01:39:22,300
cows and so we're not sure exactly what

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01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:24,460
the agenda might always be it might be

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01:39:29,940 --> 01:39:27,250
early just be a scientific one it might

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01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:29,950
be a form of entertainment

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01:39:34,110 --> 01:39:32,530
I certainly have met some strange people

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01:39:36,230 --> 01:39:34,120
in my day that I thought might be

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01:39:42,150 --> 01:39:36,240
wearing the human suit overtop of the

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01:39:45,540 --> 01:39:42,160
reptilian body or whatever no doubt so

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01:39:48,930 --> 01:39:45,550
you know I I definitely feel that um you

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01:39:51,180 --> 01:39:48,940
know if these things are zipping around

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01:39:55,770 --> 01:39:51,190
out there and coming into contact with

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01:39:58,020 --> 01:39:55,780
in the the random person that's exactly

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01:39:59,640 --> 01:39:58,030
how they would behave I mean that they

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01:40:01,950 --> 01:39:59,650
would not behave any differently the

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01:40:04,020 --> 01:40:01,960
differently than we behave toward other

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01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:04,030
animals and the animal kingdom that we

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01:40:10,980 --> 01:40:07,330
know of and I also of course think about

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01:40:14,340 --> 01:40:10,990
how many fish and the black depths of

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01:40:16,890 --> 01:40:14,350
the ocean have no idea that such a thing

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01:40:19,070 --> 01:40:16,900
as humans are up way up above and

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01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:19,080
perhaps once in a while a fish that's

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01:40:25,770 --> 01:40:22,930
sort of more daring than the rest goes a

2040
01:40:28,050 --> 01:40:25,780
little higher up and catches a glimpse

2041
01:40:30,210 --> 01:40:28,060
of some weird lights that look a heck of

2042
01:40:34,110 --> 01:40:30,220
a lot like we would describe a UFO

2043
01:40:37,470 --> 01:40:34,120
flying around overhead and so it's very

2044
01:40:39,870 --> 01:40:37,480
easy to compare our relationship with

2045
01:40:43,050 --> 01:40:39,880
the animals that we dominate to how

2046
01:40:44,790 --> 01:40:43,060
these beings would interact with us and

2047
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:44,800
treat us and that means in some cases

2048
01:40:50,220 --> 01:40:47,290
they would simply want to observe us and

2049
01:40:51,780 --> 01:40:50,230
other cases they would certainly come

2050
01:40:54,030 --> 01:40:51,790
and take us and do what they want with

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01:40:55,770 --> 01:40:54,040
this for fun or experimentation there's

2052
01:40:57,210 --> 01:40:55,780
nothing we could do about it and when

2053
01:40:58,890 --> 01:40:57,220
you come back you know who are you gonna

2054
01:41:00,390 --> 01:40:58,900
who are you gonna call right you can't

2055
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:00,400
call the police and report that so

2056
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:02,290
you're kind of on your own what you're

2057
01:41:06,710 --> 01:41:03,690
absolutely right I'm

2058
01:41:09,260 --> 01:41:06,720
fish right I go up to the surface I see

2059
01:41:11,270 --> 01:41:09,270
a boat with lights on it I freaked out I

2060
01:41:13,460 --> 01:41:11,280
go back and tell my friends and family

2061
01:41:17,750 --> 01:41:13,470
you're not gonna believe it I just saw

2062
01:41:20,270 --> 01:41:17,760
there's a ship up there show us you go

2063
01:41:23,770 --> 01:41:20,280
back it's gone well it was right here

2064
01:41:27,020 --> 01:41:23,780
Yeah right you know you're that's

2065
01:41:28,820 --> 01:41:27,030
exactly what's going on here with us

2066
01:41:32,420 --> 01:41:28,830
it's the exact same thing and they have

2067
01:41:34,340 --> 01:41:32,430
no idea about New York City I'm talking

2068
01:41:35,900 --> 01:41:34,350
about fish they don't have any idea

2069
01:41:39,980 --> 01:41:35,910
about the existence of anything else

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01:41:41,650 --> 01:41:39,990
their world is water and to them that's

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01:41:44,540 --> 01:41:41,660
all there is

2072
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:44,550
yeah and that's also another interesting

2073
01:41:49,370 --> 01:41:47,010
point that yeah to them they probably

2074
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:49,380
don't even know that water exists

2075
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:51,930
because that's just what they live in

2076
01:41:57,230 --> 01:41:55,170
right and and and and we for the longest

2077
01:41:58,640 --> 01:41:57,240
time didn't even really understand that

2078
01:42:00,830 --> 01:41:58,650
we were walking around in this gas

2079
01:42:02,060 --> 01:42:00,840
called air and we certainly didn't

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01:42:04,370 --> 01:42:02,070
understand that there was this thing

2081
01:42:06,590 --> 01:42:04,380
called outer space which is more or less

2082
01:42:09,370 --> 01:42:06,600
a vacuum up there so you know how many

2083
01:42:13,010 --> 01:42:09,380
different layers are there of these

2084
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:13,020
media within which creatures can live

2085
01:42:19,250 --> 01:42:16,650
and they spend 99 percent of their time

2086
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:19,260
in their own medium and so occasionally

2087
01:42:25,460 --> 01:42:21,570
when they pop back and forth which takes

2088
01:42:27,980 --> 01:42:25,470
effort these are not consistent

2089
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:27,990
experiences I mean these are just you

2090
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:29,610
know like you said catching the glimpse

2091
01:42:34,190 --> 01:42:31,530
of the boat but I might go back out

2092
01:42:36,110 --> 01:42:34,200
tomorrow night and myself as a human on

2093
01:42:37,580 --> 01:42:36,120
the beach and not see the the boat that

2094
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:37,590
I saw there last night sitting off the

2095
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:39,090
shore with the fishermen in it that's

2096
01:42:44,510 --> 01:42:40,080
exactly right

2097
01:42:46,940 --> 01:42:44,520
and then we have another issue that I

2098
01:42:49,460 --> 01:42:46,950
find fascinating which is the Fermi

2099
01:42:52,460 --> 01:42:49,470
paradox if there is so much life out

2100
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:52,470
there then how come we're not being

2101
01:42:57,950 --> 01:42:55,770
visited every single day well I have

2102
01:43:02,000 --> 01:42:57,960
issues with that and I think the Fermi

2103
01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:02,010
paradox is kind of dissolving somewhat

2104
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:04,560
what do you think about that yeah that's

2105
01:43:11,390 --> 01:43:07,170
an interesting concept I can see why

2106
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:11,400
that from a certain standpoint that

2107
01:43:15,710 --> 01:43:13,050
makes sense because again it goes back

2108
01:43:16,959 --> 01:43:15,720
to Occam's razor where you know a

2109
01:43:20,469 --> 01:43:16,969
scientist would say it's

2110
01:43:22,810 --> 01:43:20,479
essentially we have the math to prove

2111
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:22,820
that we ought to be visited so where is

2112
01:43:28,839 --> 01:43:26,690
everybody but there are a number of

2113
01:43:33,069 --> 01:43:28,849
interesting explanations for that number

2114
01:43:34,359 --> 01:43:33,079
one is that they may be here and we just

2115
01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:34,369
don't realize it

2116
01:43:37,870 --> 01:43:36,110
and of course that's what we're talking

2117
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:37,880
about when it comes to this idea of

2118
01:43:42,339 --> 01:43:40,010
people having contact or some kind of an

2119
01:43:45,430 --> 01:43:42,349
abduction experience that we as a whole

2120
01:43:47,469 --> 01:43:45,440
just don't get to experience that which

2121
01:43:50,890 --> 01:43:47,479
is a pretty good thing I would say and

2122
01:43:56,979 --> 01:43:50,900
in most cases on the other hand you

2123
01:44:00,509 --> 01:43:56,989
could also say that the the infinite

2124
01:44:04,109 --> 01:44:00,519
span of time in which it takes for a

2125
01:44:09,219 --> 01:44:04,119
that it takes for a civilization to rise

2126
01:44:13,209 --> 01:44:09,229
to the point to you know to go out and

2127
01:44:14,890 --> 01:44:13,219
explore and then decay and disappear the

2128
01:44:16,330 --> 01:44:14,900
almost infinite amount of time means

2129
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:16,340
that it's very unlikely that two

2130
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:19,489
civilizations are going to reach or

2131
01:44:23,739 --> 01:44:21,650
advance to that point at the same time

2132
01:44:26,229 --> 01:44:23,749
so that they can interact with each

2133
01:44:31,089 --> 01:44:26,239
other so that would indicate that maybe

2134
01:44:34,660 --> 01:44:31,099
there are aliens out there sometimes but

2135
01:44:37,209 --> 01:44:34,670
not right now you know and then of

2136
01:44:38,620 --> 01:44:37,219
course you have the idea that there are

2137
01:44:42,339 --> 01:44:38,630
aliens that are trying to communicate

2138
01:44:45,939 --> 01:44:42,349
with us every single day but they're not

2139
01:44:48,219 --> 01:44:45,949
using radio waves they're using some

2140
01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:48,229
other technology that they think should

2141
01:44:52,660 --> 01:44:51,440
occur to us that does not you know there

2142
01:44:54,609 --> 01:44:52,670
there are a number of different you know

2143
01:44:57,009 --> 01:44:54,619
possibilities there to look at that from

2144
01:45:00,100 --> 01:44:57,019
a scientific point of view but I tend to

2145
01:45:04,180 --> 01:45:00,110
think that it's most likely when you

2146
01:45:06,279 --> 01:45:04,190
consider the absolute just plethora the

2147
01:45:08,009 --> 01:45:06,289
spectrum of different types of living

2148
01:45:11,319 --> 01:45:08,019
creatures that we have on this planet

2149
01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:11,329
that there are probably things right

2150
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:15,199
under our noses that are our alien and

2151
01:45:18,729 --> 01:45:17,119
you know there's been speculation about

2152
01:45:21,370 --> 01:45:18,739
whether or not say mushrooms could be

2153
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:21,380
aliens and stuff like that

2154
01:45:26,290 --> 01:45:23,570
it's not necessarily coming in the form

2155
01:45:29,500 --> 01:45:26,300
of a little green man but this is a

2156
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:29,510
consideration that we again have such an

2157
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:30,650
ego

2158
01:45:37,630 --> 01:45:33,679
that we are not willing to sit back and

2159
01:45:39,820 --> 01:45:37,640
look at the possibility that we can't

2160
01:45:42,459 --> 01:45:39,830
even see what's right in front of us

2161
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:42,469
well there's there's two things that

2162
01:45:48,209 --> 01:45:45,050
come to mind with that and I always look

2163
01:45:52,450 --> 01:45:48,219
at ourselves first when I seek answers

2164
01:45:54,399 --> 01:45:52,460
we have been to Mars we've been to Venus

2165
01:45:56,290 --> 01:45:54,409
we've been to Jupiter we've been to

2166
01:45:59,560 --> 01:45:56,300
Saturn we've just buzzed and

2167
01:46:03,430 --> 01:45:59,570
photographed Ceres and Pluto and and we

2168
01:46:05,530 --> 01:46:03,440
now have interstellar craft but to the

2169
01:46:08,590 --> 01:46:05,540
best of my knowledge we don't have

2170
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:08,600
humans on those craft right but we are

2171
01:46:15,700 --> 01:46:11,690
certainly sending out robotic probes

2172
01:46:20,220 --> 01:46:15,710
well that's what et would do here too as

2173
01:46:22,689 --> 01:46:20,230
well if we if we discovered an alien

2174
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:22,699
intelligence and went to their planet

2175
01:46:28,660 --> 01:46:25,130
would we send a human down to the

2176
01:46:32,020 --> 01:46:28,670
surface first probably not we would send

2177
01:46:34,899 --> 01:46:32,030
an Android version of Joshua P Warren

2178
01:46:37,899 --> 01:46:34,909
that's what we would do we wouldn't

2179
01:46:40,660 --> 01:46:37,909
necessarily send you and I think that

2180
01:46:46,030 --> 01:46:40,670
that is exactly what is going on here it

2181
01:46:49,330 --> 01:46:46,040
only makes sense right well yeah and in

2182
01:46:50,350 --> 01:46:49,340
fact if you go back to the the footage

2183
01:46:52,570 --> 01:46:50,360
from Puerto Rico

2184
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:52,580
that's exactly yeah it's exactly what I

2185
01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:55,280
was going to bring up yeah yeah you know

2186
01:47:01,149 --> 01:46:57,199
I was comparing that to all of these

2187
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:01,159
ancient sculptures called Samee that

2188
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:04,159
look like you know little Hershey Kisses

2189
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:06,050
with faces on them that were gods that

2190
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:10,690
would fly around and you know I I called

2191
01:47:18,130 --> 01:47:14,810
the discovery of those along with the

2192
01:47:21,910 --> 01:47:18,140
footage of Puerto Rico Oh UFOs which

2193
01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:21,920
stands for organic UFOs but since then

2194
01:47:27,959 --> 01:47:24,560
I've thought that I may have been better

2195
01:47:30,550 --> 01:47:27,969
off to call them AI UFOs because

2196
01:47:32,740 --> 01:47:30,560
unfortunately people just can't wrap

2197
01:47:35,140 --> 01:47:32,750
their head around the idea of something

2198
01:47:38,709 --> 01:47:35,150
being organic and not being like them

2199
01:47:42,970 --> 01:47:38,719
and so by organic what I'm saying is

2200
01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:42,980
that maybe these are probes that possess

2201
01:47:47,970 --> 01:47:44,350
some kind

2202
01:47:51,420 --> 01:47:47,980
of conscience and consciousness that

2203
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:51,430
these are again what we would probably

2204
01:47:58,550 --> 01:47:54,810
be best at caste categorizing as

2205
01:48:03,840 --> 01:47:58,560
artificial intelligence or AI right now

2206
01:48:06,450 --> 01:48:03,850
because that these are craft that don't

2207
01:48:09,180 --> 01:48:06,460
have a little guy sitting inside the

2208
01:48:12,690 --> 01:48:09,190
steering wheel but they still have some

2209
01:48:16,710 --> 01:48:12,700
kind of independence and some kind of

2210
01:48:20,910 --> 01:48:16,720
ability to observe and to guide systems

2211
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:20,920
and to transfer information back to some

2212
01:48:25,770 --> 01:48:23,890
other location and so that may be more

2213
01:48:27,540 --> 01:48:25,780
of what we happen to see when we get a

2214
01:48:32,130 --> 01:48:27,550
lot of this stuff is what we think of as

2215
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:32,140
some kind of probe that that has an

2216
01:48:40,460 --> 01:48:34,090
artificial intelligence program within

2217
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:42,630
let's back up for a site let's go back

2218
01:48:50,190 --> 01:48:46,570
to the time warp D could that explain

2219
01:48:53,730 --> 01:48:50,200
deja vu uh you know that's an

2220
01:49:01,710 --> 01:48:57,180
why not you know why not we've all

2221
01:49:03,990 --> 01:49:01,720
experienced that and in it just lasts

2222
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:04,000
for a moment and then it's it's almost

2223
01:49:10,110 --> 01:49:06,970
an indiscernible moment because I

2224
01:49:11,730 --> 01:49:10,120
remember when I was in college I had a

2225
01:49:15,570 --> 01:49:11,740
great professor in the philosophy

2226
01:49:19,020 --> 01:49:15,580
department and at one point I had to

2227
01:49:22,220 --> 01:49:19,030
write a paper on time and I very quickly

2228
01:49:26,220 --> 01:49:22,230
realized that the biggest problem with

2229
01:49:27,750 --> 01:49:26,230
with time is defining the difference

2230
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:27,760
between the past the present in the

2231
01:49:32,610 --> 01:49:30,730
future because the only way from a human

2232
01:49:34,950 --> 01:49:32,620
standpoint to separate the past from the

2233
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:34,960
future is to have some kind of a

2234
01:49:41,010 --> 01:49:38,410
boundary between the two well how big is

2235
01:49:42,630 --> 01:49:41,020
that boundary right you know how long is

2236
01:49:44,250 --> 01:49:42,640
that is that one second well that

2237
01:49:47,460 --> 01:49:44,260
doesn't make sense because even one

2238
01:49:48,630 --> 01:49:47,470
second has a beginning and an end and so

2239
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:48,640
you would have a past and a future

2240
01:49:52,470 --> 01:49:50,890
within your past and future so all

2241
01:49:55,230 --> 01:49:52,480
you're doing is kicking the problem down

2242
01:49:57,950 --> 01:49:55,240
the can so essentially we don't know

2243
01:50:00,690 --> 01:49:57,960
exactly how long the present laugh

2244
01:50:03,300 --> 01:50:00,700
especially when it comes to the human

2245
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:03,310
experience in human perception and so

2246
01:50:08,729 --> 01:50:06,130
you know again 20 microseconds may sound

2247
01:50:10,979 --> 01:50:08,739
like a very small amount of time but

2248
01:50:13,290 --> 01:50:10,989
that may be just enough time for your

2249
01:50:16,710 --> 01:50:13,300
brain to kick back you know a second or

2250
01:50:18,330 --> 01:50:16,720
two and say whoa why do I feel like I've

2251
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:18,340
just you know seen something that I've

2252
01:50:25,770 --> 01:50:22,080
seen before so it could very much be a

2253
01:50:28,530 --> 01:50:25,780
graceful solution to deja vu

2254
01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:28,540
yeah I didn't want to I don't want to

2255
01:50:33,150 --> 01:50:30,400
ruin the flow here but that was such a

2256
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:33,160
great question yeah I had to jump in

2257
01:50:39,450 --> 01:50:34,810
because we've all experienced Asia I've

2258
01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:39,460
in fact I rather enjoy deja vu I stopped

2259
01:50:45,780 --> 01:50:41,710
I'm just like okay I'm just gonna enjoy

2260
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:45,790
myself here while this is going down and

2261
01:50:52,260 --> 01:50:48,730
there is something what would is really

2262
01:50:54,810 --> 01:50:52,270
interesting with deja vu for me Joshua

2263
01:50:57,330 --> 01:50:54,820
is everybody says that they've

2264
01:50:59,370 --> 01:50:57,340
experienced it in some form it doesn't

2265
01:51:03,030 --> 01:50:59,380
matter who you are they've all got their

2266
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:03,040
own explanations or interpretations of

2267
01:51:09,870 --> 01:51:06,130
what is going on but the fact is deja vu

2268
01:51:12,330 --> 01:51:09,880
is real oh yeah yeah it's and you know

2269
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:12,340
that's also one of those interesting

2270
01:51:18,060 --> 01:51:15,280
things about the human experience in

2271
01:51:21,540 --> 01:51:18,070
general you know how do we define what's

2272
01:51:24,590 --> 01:51:21,550
what's real because we're always trying

2273
01:51:28,050 --> 01:51:24,600
to rely up on some kind of a tool but

2274
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:28,060
and science as we know it has progressed

2275
01:51:33,300 --> 01:51:30,130
in large part because of the advancement

2276
01:51:36,410 --> 01:51:33,310
of tools but we have to remind ourselves

2277
01:51:39,180 --> 01:51:36,420
that every single tool out there was

2278
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:39,190
envisioned by a person created by a

2279
01:51:43,979 --> 01:51:41,650
person built by a person calibrated by a

2280
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:43,989
person operated by a person interpreted

2281
01:51:48,330 --> 01:51:46,570
by a person you can't take the human

2282
01:51:50,430 --> 01:51:48,340
element out of it the human elements

2283
01:51:51,300 --> 01:51:50,440
really all you've got whether we like it

2284
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:51,310
or not

2285
01:51:58,380 --> 01:51:54,880
and so that's why when we have these

2286
01:52:00,930 --> 01:51:58,390
discussions about reality we're better

2287
01:52:02,970 --> 01:52:00,940
off to stick with what we know and

2288
01:52:05,070 --> 01:52:02,980
that's not always what you can prove to

2289
01:52:07,350 --> 01:52:05,080
somebody else just like I can't prove to

2290
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:07,360
you what I dreamed last night

2291
01:52:12,790 --> 01:52:09,920
I remember it it was

2292
01:52:15,070 --> 01:52:12,800
real to me but I can't show you that and

2293
01:52:17,260 --> 01:52:15,080
scientifically demonstrate that for you

2294
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:17,270
but it was a part of my reality and

2295
01:52:21,070 --> 01:52:19,130
dejavu was one of those things that like

2296
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:21,080
you said I would presume everybody can

2297
01:52:27,250 --> 01:52:24,410
relate to and so that may be the most

2298
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:27,260
basic way of experiencing these time

2299
01:52:33,850 --> 01:52:30,410
slips I used to say when I was a kid I'm

2300
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:33,860
going back to age 12 13 14 when I would

2301
01:52:38,740 --> 01:52:35,690
speak to my friends about deja vu and

2302
01:52:42,310 --> 01:52:38,750
especially when it happened I would say

2303
01:52:45,459 --> 01:52:42,320
I feel like somebody has read my book

2304
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:45,469
that's what I used to say as a kid when

2305
01:52:50,620 --> 01:52:48,170
that went down and as an adult I look

2306
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:50,630
back at that that's an innocent way of

2307
01:52:54,970 --> 01:52:52,610
looking at it but it seems to me like

2308
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:54,980
it's spot on the money and I can't

2309
01:52:59,800 --> 01:52:57,050
really explain it any other way and

2310
01:53:00,610 --> 01:52:59,810
that's the ways to relate to it as a

2311
01:53:04,090 --> 01:53:00,620
child

2312
01:53:06,189 --> 01:53:04,100
somebody has read my book and and now I

2313
01:53:10,180 --> 01:53:06,199
think about today about how profound

2314
01:53:12,340 --> 01:53:10,190
that thought was well and I I pay

2315
01:53:14,290 --> 01:53:12,350
attention when I'm somewhere and

2316
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:14,300
somebody says out of the blue oh I just

2317
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:17,570
had deja vu I mean in fact Lauren and I

2318
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:20,210
my wife and I were at a restaurant just

2319
01:53:25,959 --> 01:53:23,170
recently for the first time and the

2320
01:53:27,729 --> 01:53:25,969
bartender came up to service and the

2321
01:53:30,220 --> 01:53:27,739
very first thing she said was whoa deja

2322
01:53:31,450 --> 01:53:30,230
vu I thought oh that's interesting

2323
01:53:32,979 --> 01:53:31,460
that's the first thing out of this

2324
01:53:35,610 --> 01:53:32,989
lady's mouth and then throughout the

2325
01:53:38,860 --> 01:53:35,620
rest of the day all these very unusual

2326
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:38,870
sort of synchronistic and serendipitous

2327
01:53:43,959 --> 01:53:41,449
things began to happen to us and I said

2328
01:53:46,630 --> 01:53:43,969
okay this is one of those days where you

2329
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:46,640
get to see the the connections form

2330
01:53:50,950 --> 01:53:48,650
right in front of you I love it when it

2331
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:50,960
happened I you know a couple of months

2332
01:53:59,290 --> 01:53:56,090
ago Rita and I my wife we went through a

2333
01:54:01,300 --> 01:53:59,300
few days of strangeness and you know

2334
01:54:03,370 --> 01:54:01,310
just weird things just happening left

2335
01:54:04,510 --> 01:54:03,380
and right and she walks out under the

2336
01:54:07,630 --> 01:54:04,520
patio she goes

2337
01:54:10,750 --> 01:54:07,640
what'd you say I said I said deja vu I'm

2338
01:54:12,970 --> 01:54:10,760
going through and and and she just

2339
01:54:15,370 --> 01:54:12,980
stopped me and she's like staring out

2340
01:54:17,830 --> 01:54:15,380
and she's like enjoying the moment and

2341
01:54:20,169 --> 01:54:17,840
we just it was like three days of that

2342
01:54:22,330 --> 01:54:20,179
you're absolutely right and you need to

2343
01:54:23,350 --> 01:54:22,340
really stop and take note don't play

2344
01:54:24,850 --> 01:54:23,360
around with it

2345
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:24,860
try to figure out exactly what the

2346
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:28,250
universe is trying to tell you and maybe

2347
01:54:34,930 --> 01:54:32,330
that is again an example of just having

2348
01:54:38,140 --> 01:54:34,940
one of these quick encounters with these

2349
01:54:40,270 --> 01:54:38,150
time warps but sometimes they last

2350
01:54:42,340 --> 01:54:40,280
longer than that and when they last

2351
01:54:43,899 --> 01:54:42,350
longer than that that's when you get to

2352
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:43,909
see the really good stuff you know

2353
01:54:47,770 --> 01:54:46,010
that's when you get to look into the the

2354
01:54:50,919 --> 01:54:47,780
past and see something that happened

2355
01:54:54,550 --> 01:54:50,929
long ago or maybe just see yourself from

2356
01:54:57,370 --> 01:54:54,560
a minute ago it may have to do with the

2357
01:55:00,459 --> 01:54:57,380
duration of this time slip that you

2358
01:55:05,050 --> 01:55:00,469
happen to be encountering now let's go

2359
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:05,060
mention dreams a minute ago and dreams

2360
01:55:12,070 --> 01:55:09,730
and abductions seem to go hand in hand

2361
01:55:14,430 --> 01:55:12,080
now and we look at some of the famous

2362
01:55:17,109 --> 01:55:14,440
cases of course you know Travis Walton

2363
01:55:19,330 --> 01:55:17,119
comes to mind and Travis just went

2364
01:55:20,979 --> 01:55:19,340
through some stuff over in England he's

2365
01:55:23,919 --> 01:55:20,989
back here in the States Travis if you're

2366
01:55:27,220 --> 01:55:23,929
listening were with you man and I'm

2367
01:55:28,359 --> 01:55:27,230
gonna give you a call now back to you

2368
01:55:31,590 --> 01:55:28,369
know like Travis well you know

2369
01:55:34,209 --> 01:55:31,600
well-documented case I witnesses

2370
01:55:38,140 --> 01:55:34,219
certainly polygraph tests and a lot of

2371
01:55:40,090 --> 01:55:38,150
things that went on to confirm his

2372
01:55:44,050 --> 01:55:40,100
abduction but then we have all of the

2373
01:55:46,959 --> 01:55:44,060
other abduction cases again the numbers

2374
01:55:51,100 --> 01:55:46,969
are mind-boggling when we talk about

2375
01:55:52,450 --> 01:55:51,110
this is there that I think there's two

2376
01:55:54,790 --> 01:55:52,460
things going on and I'd like your answer

2377
01:55:58,540 --> 01:55:54,800
on each one one that these abductions

2378
01:56:02,200 --> 01:55:58,550
are real - they could be something more

2379
01:56:04,419 --> 01:56:02,210
sinister and maybe reenactments that are

2380
01:56:06,729 --> 01:56:04,429
going on to implant memories I'm talking

2381
01:56:10,419 --> 01:56:06,739
about military in my lab situations

2382
01:56:14,740 --> 01:56:10,429
because the military seems to be present

2383
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:14,750
at some of these abduction experiences

2384
01:56:18,370 --> 01:56:16,250
what do you think is going on when we're

2385
01:56:22,750 --> 01:56:18,380
talking about abductions separate from

2386
01:56:25,689 --> 01:56:22,760
you know contact well for one thing when

2387
01:56:29,709 --> 01:56:25,699
it comes to the real stuff the real

2388
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:29,719
encounters we have to first off look at

2389
01:56:35,170 --> 01:56:33,280
the physicality of the entire scenario

2390
01:56:37,870 --> 01:56:35,180
because

2391
01:56:39,850 --> 01:56:37,880
going back to us humans being so

2392
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:39,860
egocentric we take for granted that just

2393
01:56:44,590 --> 01:56:42,530
because that we have a physical body

2394
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:44,600
that we can look at in the mirror that

2395
01:56:51,940 --> 01:56:47,810
that is actually the bulk of us but in

2396
01:56:53,590 --> 01:56:51,950
fact physicality is an illusion that's

2397
01:56:56,860 --> 01:56:53,600
what the relationship between matter and

2398
01:56:59,020 --> 01:56:56,870
energy tells us that essentially two

2399
01:57:01,870 --> 01:56:59,030
things are physical to each other if

2400
01:57:03,370 --> 01:57:01,880
they resonate within a similar vibration

2401
01:57:05,290 --> 01:57:03,380
that's a very simple way of putting it

2402
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:05,300
right and then if they resonate at a

2403
01:57:09,940 --> 01:57:07,610
dissimilar vibration they are not

2404
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:09,950
physical to each other which is why you

2405
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:11,810
know right now a radio wave will pass

2406
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:14,210
through you like a ghost but if you were

2407
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:16,130
made of radio waves then you would

2408
01:57:20,860 --> 01:57:17,930
encounter a radio wave like an

2409
01:57:23,700 --> 01:57:20,870
impenetrable wall and then you have some

2410
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:23,710
of those waves out there that are just

2411
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:26,930
physical enough they will interact just

2412
01:57:33,100 --> 01:57:31,130
enough with with the physical world like

2413
01:57:35,980 --> 01:57:33,110
microwaves that they can cause enough

2414
01:57:37,330 --> 01:57:35,990
friction to heat up your baked potato so

2415
01:57:41,590 --> 01:57:37,340
you have all these different levels of

2416
01:57:44,530 --> 01:57:41,600
physicality and it may be that many of

2417
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:44,540
these encounters and abductions do take

2418
01:57:51,010 --> 01:57:47,810
place on what you might call an astral

2419
01:57:53,770 --> 01:57:51,020
or a non-physical plane and so that's

2420
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:53,780
why people often have these dream

2421
01:57:58,180 --> 01:57:55,610
experiences that they have trouble

2422
01:58:01,150 --> 01:57:58,190
distinguishing from some kind of an

2423
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:01,160
abduction encounter they wake up the

2424
01:58:05,350 --> 01:58:02,690
next day and they're like I had the most

2425
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:05,360
realistic dream of my life and look I've

2426
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:07,010
got these marks on me and my t-shirts

2427
01:58:12,790 --> 01:58:10,850
torn and on and so it could be that most

2428
01:58:15,730 --> 01:58:12,800
people when they get abducted do not get

2429
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:15,740
abducted on the physical plane this

2430
01:58:19,930 --> 01:58:17,930
would also explain why that you get

2431
01:58:22,860 --> 01:58:19,940
beamed through physical objects like

2432
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:22,870
your ceiling and the roof of your house

2433
01:58:29,950 --> 01:58:27,850
and if these beings whether they are

2434
01:58:34,420 --> 01:58:29,960
extraterrestrial or interdimensional or

2435
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:34,430
both have the ability to understand the

2436
01:58:39,130 --> 01:58:37,250
way our world works well enough to

2437
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:39,140
travel the way they can travel and

2438
01:58:43,690 --> 01:58:40,970
conduct themselves the way they conduct

2439
01:58:46,510 --> 01:58:43,700
themselves then we must consider they

2440
01:58:48,100 --> 01:58:46,520
have to understand the relationship

2441
01:58:50,050 --> 01:58:48,110
between

2442
01:58:53,170 --> 01:58:50,060
energy and physicality and they might be

2443
01:58:55,810 --> 01:58:53,180
able to appear in different states and

2444
01:58:58,750 --> 01:58:55,820
so you might have you know the typical

2445
01:59:01,660 --> 01:58:58,760
sure enough the cow gets you know sucked

2446
01:59:03,310 --> 01:59:01,670
up into the into the UFO and mutilated

2447
01:59:05,980 --> 01:59:03,320
or something like that but it may be

2448
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:05,990
much more common for people to have most

2449
01:59:10,780 --> 01:59:08,450
of their experience occur in an astral

2450
01:59:13,570 --> 01:59:10,790
non-physical way now when it comes to

2451
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:13,580
the second type which of course gets

2452
01:59:21,610 --> 01:59:16,610
into government conspiracy and military

2453
01:59:23,290 --> 01:59:21,620
action I am immediately reminded of how

2454
01:59:27,790 --> 01:59:23,300
during World War two

2455
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:27,800
the Allies went out and hired magicians

2456
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:30,650
from Las Vegas and special-effects

2457
01:59:36,100 --> 01:59:33,440
technicians from Hollywood to come

2458
01:59:39,010 --> 01:59:36,110
together and create illusions which

2459
01:59:41,410 --> 01:59:39,020
played an enormous role in helping the

2460
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:41,420
Allies win the war I mean there were

2461
01:59:45,190 --> 01:59:43,760
entire factories that were saved from

2462
01:59:47,980 --> 01:59:45,200
destruction these were munitions

2463
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:47,990
factories because they were able to make

2464
01:59:52,300 --> 01:59:50,090
it disappear from the air and then

2465
01:59:55,180 --> 01:59:52,310
recreate it in another location so the

2466
01:59:56,860 --> 01:59:55,190
wrong location got bombed there are many

2467
01:59:59,440 --> 01:59:56,870
examples of this and this is well

2468
02:00:02,740 --> 01:59:59,450
historically documented and so we know

2469
02:00:06,010 --> 02:00:02,750
that that was an effective component of

2470
02:00:09,190 --> 02:00:06,020
the psychological warfare long ago and

2471
02:00:10,780 --> 02:00:09,200
world war two so why would that work not

2472
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:10,790
continue to this day

2473
02:00:17,650 --> 02:00:13,930
but utilizing the more advanced

2474
02:00:21,210 --> 02:00:17,660
technological options so you've got now

2475
02:00:25,450 --> 02:00:21,220
lasers and Holograms and holographs and

2476
02:00:27,670 --> 02:00:25,460
all of these abilities to to fool

2477
02:00:30,220 --> 02:00:27,680
someone and into believing what you want

2478
02:00:31,810 --> 02:00:30,230
them to believe and I think that can be

2479
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:31,820
especially effective if you're dealing

2480
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:34,370
with an enemy like we often have in the

2481
02:00:40,300 --> 02:00:37,610
Middle East that says look I'm doing

2482
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:40,310
this for Allah you know I'm doing this

2483
02:00:46,570 --> 02:00:43,970
for a supernatural being and I will die

2484
02:00:47,260 --> 02:00:46,580
for this so there's nothing you can do

2485
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:47,270
to stop me

2486
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:50,090
well what if they could create a

2487
02:00:55,270 --> 02:00:53,330
technology that makes Allah up here out

2488
02:00:58,120 --> 02:00:55,280
in the middle of the desert and tell

2489
02:00:59,980 --> 02:00:58,130
them no no not today you know I mean

2490
02:01:01,450 --> 02:00:59,990
that might be the kind of thing that

2491
02:01:03,190 --> 02:01:01,460
would actually work

2492
02:01:04,630 --> 02:01:03,200
nothing else would if you're able to

2493
02:01:06,220 --> 02:01:04,640
take advantage of what people believe

2494
02:01:08,770 --> 02:01:06,230
whether we're talking about their

2495
02:01:11,650 --> 02:01:08,780
religious beliefs or ghosts or UFOs or

2496
02:01:15,270 --> 02:01:11,660
cryptids and use that technique in order

2497
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:15,280
to not only manipulate them but also to

2498
02:01:20,170 --> 02:01:17,810
to sort of make somebody look a little

2499
02:01:23,709 --> 02:01:20,180
bit more or less like a crank if

2500
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:23,719
somebody reports something publicly well

2501
02:01:28,180 --> 02:01:25,610
that's the best way to do it right I

2502
02:01:31,990 --> 02:01:28,190
mean yeah use a little disinfo the rest

2503
02:01:34,479 --> 02:01:32,000
of us are crazy see we told you so yeah

2504
02:01:36,610 --> 02:01:34,489
yeah I mean and and it's the most

2505
02:01:39,070 --> 02:01:36,620
effortless way and you could you could

2506
02:01:41,620 --> 02:01:39,080
also argue very effectively that that's

2507
02:01:43,780 --> 02:01:41,630
the most humane way to control the

2508
02:01:46,060 --> 02:01:43,790
public and to conduct warfare I can very

2509
02:01:48,550 --> 02:01:46,070
easily see somebody at the Pentagon

2510
02:01:50,490 --> 02:01:48,560
saying look we could continue wasting

2511
02:01:54,190 --> 02:01:50,500
all of these lives and all of this

2512
02:01:56,350 --> 02:01:54,200
armament and etc or we could just create

2513
02:01:58,990 --> 02:01:56,360
this technology that gives this illusion

2514
02:02:00,850 --> 02:01:59,000
and makes them think in a different way

2515
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:00,860
and we don't have to confront them

2516
02:02:07,630 --> 02:02:04,730
head-on with brute force an amazing way

2517
02:02:10,420 --> 02:02:07,640
to look at it and when we come back I

2518
02:02:12,370 --> 02:02:10,430
want to talk about recent sightings

2519
02:02:14,250 --> 02:02:12,380
we're gonna do that but also I want to

2520
02:02:17,530 --> 02:02:14,260
go back to this interdimensional

2521
02:02:19,390 --> 02:02:17,540
parallel world aspect to abductions I

2522
02:02:21,810 --> 02:02:19,400
find that fascinating I want more info

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our guest tonight is Joshua P Warren

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happy UFO day I'll be right back

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02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:42,180
welcome back fade to black our guest

2610
02:06:49,100 --> 02:06:44,730
tonight Joshua P Warren on this world

2611
02:06:51,620 --> 02:06:49,110
UFO day man he's at a busy week this

2612
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week can I kind of thank him one more

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time for finding the time to come in and

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hang out with us on this very important

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yourself a pair of those generation

2622
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threes Joshua the interdimensional

2623
02:07:26,959 --> 02:07:23,910
parallel world time slip aspect of all

2624
02:07:30,170 --> 02:07:26,969
of this is fascinating and it takes me

2625
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:30,180
back to a very famous case in book it's

2626
02:07:36,380 --> 02:07:34,170
called the Mojave incident and that book

2627
02:07:38,270 --> 02:07:36,390
and that couple that went through that

2628
02:07:40,070 --> 02:07:38,280
not only was here with me em fade to

2629
02:07:43,910 --> 02:07:40,080
black a couple of times and over I

2630
02:07:47,390 --> 02:07:43,920
coast-to-coast when you hear the two of

2631
02:07:49,490 --> 02:07:47,400
them recount their story together I

2632
02:07:52,189 --> 02:07:49,500
don't think that there's any doubt that

2633
02:07:54,020 --> 02:07:52,199
they went through this and the incident

2634
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:54,030
happened but we're talking about a large

2635
02:08:00,500 --> 02:07:56,810
craft we're talking about abduction

2636
02:08:02,990 --> 02:08:00,510
thousands of beings that came down into

2637
02:08:06,530 --> 02:08:03,000
the mojave desert that night with red

2638
02:08:09,140 --> 02:08:06,540
eyes that they had seen but yet it

2639
02:08:11,510 --> 02:08:09,150
wasn't witnessed by anybody at the

2640
02:08:14,780 --> 02:08:11,520
campground you know that was just a few

2641
02:08:20,090 --> 02:08:14,790
miles up the road but the incident

2642
02:08:23,060 --> 02:08:20,100
happened it could this you know parallel

2643
02:08:26,990 --> 02:08:23,070
world aspect come into play here where

2644
02:08:31,550 --> 02:08:27,000
they were taken to everything happened

2645
02:08:34,340 --> 02:08:31,560
but just in another dimension well yeah

2646
02:08:37,189 --> 02:08:34,350
especially if you consider that right

2647
02:08:38,770 --> 02:08:37,199
now the best mathematicians in the world

2648
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:38,780
are telling us that there are at least

2649
02:08:47,890 --> 02:08:45,330
10 or 11 other dimensions and we really

2650
02:08:50,510 --> 02:08:47,900
can't comprehend exactly what that means

2651
02:08:52,290 --> 02:08:50,520
it's hard enough for us again to figure

2652
02:08:54,810 --> 02:08:52,300
out what time is

2653
02:08:57,950 --> 02:08:54,820
and time is just something that fuses

2654
02:09:01,440 --> 02:08:57,960
the first three dimensions together and

2655
02:09:04,980 --> 02:09:01,450
tries to explain how that they advance

2656
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:04,990
or progress but I think the best way to

2657
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:07,810
wrap our brains around interdimensional

2658
02:09:14,490 --> 02:09:10,570
activity is to interestingly enough go

2659
02:09:17,310 --> 02:09:14,500
back to the Victorian English author

2660
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:17,320
named Edwin Abbott who wrote a very

2661
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:19,810
interesting book called flatland and

2662
02:09:28,020 --> 02:09:25,810
which he imagined the world that is that

2663
02:09:31,170 --> 02:09:28,030
consists solely of two dimensional

2664
02:09:34,560 --> 02:09:31,180
beings where every single thing is flat

2665
02:09:36,210 --> 02:09:34,570
so in other words their whole world you

2666
02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:36,220
could envision as like a big flat piece

2667
02:09:41,460 --> 02:09:39,760
of cardboard ignoring the fact that even

2668
02:09:44,850 --> 02:09:41,470
a piece of cardboard has little height

2669
02:09:47,970 --> 02:09:44,860
and whatnot but anyway flat and then

2670
02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:47,980
they themselves are like circles that

2671
02:09:52,860 --> 02:09:50,290
are just sliding around inside flatland

2672
02:09:55,260 --> 02:09:52,870
completely oblivious to anything like

2673
02:09:58,860 --> 02:09:55,270
Heights or up or down you know as in a

2674
02:10:02,160 --> 02:09:58,870
third dimension so if we were to be

2675
02:10:05,060 --> 02:10:02,170
three dimensional beings looking down on

2676
02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:05,070
flatland from this direction called up

2677
02:10:10,500 --> 02:10:08,650
that they are oblivious to and we were

2678
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:10,510
to say hey little flatlander how you

2679
02:10:14,970 --> 02:10:12,970
doing that person would just hear a

2680
02:10:17,580 --> 02:10:14,980
disembodied voice that would suddenly

2681
02:10:20,580 --> 02:10:17,590
come from nowhere and it would be pretty

2682
02:10:22,740 --> 02:10:20,590
freaky now you also from that point of

2683
02:10:26,540 --> 02:10:22,750
view would be able to see inside their

2684
02:10:29,220 --> 02:10:26,550
houses with sort of an x-ray vision and

2685
02:10:30,930 --> 02:10:29,230
therefore you'd be able to describe for

2686
02:10:34,610 --> 02:10:30,940
them information about their

2687
02:10:38,430 --> 02:10:34,620
surroundings that they could not explain

2688
02:10:40,830 --> 02:10:38,440
but if you got really engaged and you

2689
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:40,840
decided to go down into flatland and

2690
02:10:45,690 --> 02:10:43,570
visit their world from a Flatlanders

2691
02:10:48,900 --> 02:10:45,700
point of view all that individual would

2692
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:48,910
see is a series of objects appearing as

2693
02:10:54,690 --> 02:10:51,730
slices because

2694
02:10:56,790 --> 02:10:54,700
this object could not be seen it's in

2695
02:10:58,770 --> 02:10:56,800
its entirety why with all three

2696
02:11:01,260 --> 02:10:58,780
dimensions and so you have this sort of

2697
02:11:04,020 --> 02:11:01,270
a series or set of objects that appears

2698
02:11:05,820 --> 02:11:04,030
in midair and then lastly if you were to

2699
02:11:07,620 --> 02:11:05,830
reach down into flatland and pick up a

2700
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:07,630
flatlander and toss him or her in the

2701
02:11:13,140 --> 02:11:10,570
air and the person came floating down

2702
02:11:15,090 --> 02:11:13,150
back at a flatland freaked-out

2703
02:11:16,830 --> 02:11:15,100
they would have no way of explaining

2704
02:11:18,420 --> 02:11:16,840
this experience to their friends other

2705
02:11:21,030 --> 02:11:18,430
than to say this was some kind of a

2706
02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:21,040
mystical encounter and so what I mean by

2707
02:11:26,490 --> 02:11:23,650
by this example is that all these things

2708
02:11:29,850 --> 02:11:26,500
I described that a two dimensional being

2709
02:11:31,380 --> 02:11:29,860
would experience if if he or she came

2710
02:11:34,020 --> 02:11:31,390
into contact with a three dimensional

2711
02:11:36,270 --> 02:11:34,030
being sounds eerily like the things that

2712
02:11:38,580 --> 02:11:36,280
we described when we come into contact

2713
02:11:41,550 --> 02:11:38,590
with some of these other beings that may

2714
02:11:47,210 --> 02:11:41,560
have an interdimensional capacity and so

2715
02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:47,220
it could be that if these beings are

2716
02:11:51,750 --> 02:11:50,170
entering our dimension from a higher

2717
02:11:53,100 --> 02:11:51,760
dimension a fifth dimension sixth

2718
02:11:56,310 --> 02:11:53,110
dimension seventh dimension eighth -

2719
02:11:58,830 --> 02:11:56,320
mentioned etc then certain individuals

2720
02:12:01,770 --> 02:11:58,840
might have a very limited point of view

2721
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:01,780
in which to observe this and and

2722
02:12:06,479 --> 02:12:03,850
appreciate it but the rest of us would

2723
02:12:07,979 --> 02:12:06,489
not and so there are all those variables

2724
02:12:09,810 --> 02:12:07,989
that we have to consider when we wrap

2725
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:09,820
our minds around interdimensional

2726
02:12:17,820 --> 02:12:14,770
encounters well and et 10,000 years more

2727
02:12:20,580 --> 02:12:17,830
advanced a million more years a billion

2728
02:12:24,470 --> 02:12:20,590
would certainly understand dimensions

2729
02:12:27,450 --> 02:12:24,480
and and how to dance in and out of them

2730
02:12:30,229 --> 02:12:27,460
yeah but one would imagine that you know

2731
02:12:33,690 --> 02:12:30,239
if you're going to make the trip here

2732
02:12:38,090 --> 02:12:33,700
you know you you must understand a lot

2733
02:12:40,380 --> 02:12:38,100
about that and so that's why sometimes

2734
02:12:42,870 --> 02:12:40,390
you almost want to just throw up your

2735
02:12:45,930 --> 02:12:42,880
hands and say look I'm never gonna

2736
02:12:49,530 --> 02:12:45,940
understand all this because it's so

2737
02:12:51,990 --> 02:12:49,540
advanced that it's impossible for me to

2738
02:12:53,340 --> 02:12:52,000
understand it and and that may also be

2739
02:12:55,530 --> 02:12:53,350
one of the reasons that you know

2740
02:12:58,200 --> 02:12:55,540
disclosure is not more of a priority

2741
02:13:00,060 --> 02:12:58,210
because and I bet you a lot of these

2742
02:13:01,860 --> 02:13:00,070
folks who were with the military who

2743
02:13:03,270 --> 02:13:01,870
have these first-hand encounters they

2744
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:03,280
say look we don't know what's going on

2745
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:06,010
that much more than anybody else

2746
02:13:10,140 --> 02:13:08,050
and so this you know it produces a

2747
02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:10,150
conundrum where you ask yourself like

2748
02:13:14,610 --> 02:13:12,730
how how efficient is it for us to invest

2749
02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:14,620
resources in this thing they were

2750
02:13:18,810 --> 02:13:16,000
probably never really going to be able

2751
02:13:21,540 --> 02:13:18,820
to understand anyway yeah we have to

2752
02:13:25,170 --> 02:13:21,550
look at it in those terms in that et

2753
02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:25,180
getting here they don't know whether

2754
02:13:29,100 --> 02:13:27,370
it's a thousand years ago 2000 years ago

2755
02:13:31,170 --> 02:13:29,110
or today and they're visiting all the

2756
02:13:34,250 --> 02:13:31,180
time I understand that but they don't

2757
02:13:37,230 --> 02:13:34,260
know what level of intelligence we have

2758
02:13:40,230 --> 02:13:37,240
necessarily or what we would understand

2759
02:13:43,740 --> 02:13:40,240
necessarily to what is very simple for

2760
02:13:48,660 --> 02:13:43,750
them like with us language in riding a

2761
02:13:50,970 --> 02:13:48,670
bike and laughing comedy are very simple

2762
02:13:53,700 --> 02:13:50,980
things for us but we can't convey that

2763
02:13:56,460 --> 02:13:53,710
to our closest relatives like a

2764
02:13:59,610 --> 02:13:56,470
chimpanzee they don't get it right and

2765
02:14:02,310 --> 02:13:59,620
it would be the same thing with et the

2766
02:14:05,940 --> 02:14:02,320
very basics for them are way beyond our

2767
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:05,950
understanding yes and going back to that

2768
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:08,890
example with the animal kingdom I wrote

2769
02:14:12,390 --> 02:14:10,810
a book one time called pet ghosts

2770
02:14:14,790 --> 02:14:12,400
animal encounters from beyond the grave

2771
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:14,800
which got into all kinds of animals

2772
02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:19,450
other than just pets but the the reason

2773
02:14:24,830 --> 02:14:20,890
I bring this up is that you know I was

2774
02:14:28,580 --> 02:14:24,840
talking about how most human beings

2775
02:14:33,150 --> 02:14:28,590
would say well I am smarter than a shark

2776
02:14:36,270 --> 02:14:33,160
but if I throw you in the water with a

2777
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:36,280
shark how much does that really matter

2778
02:14:43,020 --> 02:14:41,050
not much yeah so the shark you know who

2779
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:43,030
you you can judge who's smarter here but

2780
02:14:47,190 --> 02:14:44,410
the shark I believe is gonna probably

2781
02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:47,200
have the better the better hand up in

2782
02:14:53,070 --> 02:14:49,330
that and so you know again this goes

2783
02:14:55,470 --> 02:14:53,080
back to us thinking of ourselves so

2784
02:14:57,750 --> 02:14:55,480
highly without realizing that maybe all

2785
02:15:01,140 --> 02:14:57,760
of the animals around us are far more

2786
02:15:03,150 --> 02:15:01,150
intelligent than we realize but just

2787
02:15:05,940 --> 02:15:03,160
they are intelligent within a particular

2788
02:15:08,670 --> 02:15:05,950
range and we're we're intelligent within

2789
02:15:11,490 --> 02:15:08,680
a particular range and we get we get

2790
02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:11,500
very arrogant about that I want to I'd

2791
02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:14,290
spend this last few minutes with you

2792
02:15:21,810 --> 02:15:18,690
talking about night vision one of the

2793
02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:21,820
one of the life-changing moments for me

2794
02:15:27,720 --> 02:15:25,210
one of one of my epiphanies was that

2795
02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:27,730
first night out there doing a sky watch

2796
02:15:36,630 --> 02:15:32,770
with night vision and it caused me after

2797
02:15:39,630 --> 02:15:36,640
that moment - I always look to the stars

2798
02:15:41,910 --> 02:15:39,640
but now I look to the stars differently

2799
02:15:43,650 --> 02:15:41,920
knowing that there's crap flying around

2800
02:15:46,370 --> 02:15:43,660
up there that I just can't see right

2801
02:15:50,340 --> 02:15:46,380
without the night vision every moment of

2802
02:15:52,770 --> 02:15:50,350
every night of everything there was

2803
02:15:56,160 --> 02:15:52,780
stuff going on up there that that I

2804
02:15:58,350 --> 02:15:56,170
can't see with my eyes frightening on

2805
02:16:01,080 --> 02:15:58,360
one side but on the other side it

2806
02:16:04,350 --> 02:16:01,090
answers a lot of questions for me what

2807
02:16:06,090 --> 02:16:04,360
what do you think is though what is it

2808
02:16:07,710 --> 02:16:06,100
that we are seeing you touched upon it

2809
02:16:09,390 --> 02:16:07,720
earlier some of it could be outs in

2810
02:16:11,130 --> 02:16:09,400
military and I agree with that some of

2811
02:16:12,500 --> 02:16:11,140
it could be satellites there's other

2812
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:12,510
stuff that you see with night vision

2813
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:16,410
that is absolutely not of this earth

2814
02:16:24,180 --> 02:16:20,130
well my most profound night vision

2815
02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:24,190
experience happened probably about 10

2816
02:16:30,090 --> 02:16:27,610
years ago in the desert outside of

2817
02:16:33,690 --> 02:16:30,100
Laughlin Nevada for you is where it's

2818
02:16:36,750 --> 02:16:33,700
much darker at night and I'll never

2819
02:16:38,760 --> 02:16:36,760
forget seeing that sky for the first

2820
02:16:40,950 --> 02:16:38,770
time through third generation night

2821
02:16:43,650 --> 02:16:40,960
vision I mean it was just like for every

2822
02:16:45,780 --> 02:16:43,660
star that was visible to my naked eyes

2823
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:45,790
there were about twenty or thirty you

2824
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:47,050
know that were visible through the night

2825
02:16:50,550 --> 02:16:49,330
vision and so for one thing the heavens

2826
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:50,560
are just bejeweled and there's an

2827
02:16:57,150 --> 02:16:53,530
incredible amount of clarity there and I

2828
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:57,160
was out there with three friends so

2829
02:17:01,590 --> 02:16:58,719
there was a total of four of us and

2830
02:17:04,650 --> 02:17:01,600
three of us had the third gen

2831
02:17:08,220 --> 02:17:04,660
night-vision goggles and this was about

2832
02:17:12,630 --> 02:17:08,230
9:30 at night at one point I looked over

2833
02:17:17,070 --> 02:17:12,640
toward the east and when I saw in the

2834
02:17:18,930 --> 02:17:17,080
sky looked so bizarre that at first I

2835
02:17:21,390 --> 02:17:18,940
thought that my goggles were

2836
02:17:23,610 --> 02:17:21,400
malfunctioning that there was some kind

2837
02:17:27,470 --> 02:17:23,620
of a digital artifact that had appeared

2838
02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:27,480
in my goggles because what I saw was a

2839
02:17:36,570 --> 02:17:31,840
gigantic v-shape not a triangle

2840
02:17:39,500 --> 02:17:36,580
that a huge v-shape it looked like the

2841
02:17:43,410 --> 02:17:39,510
hand of God had just taken a big

2842
02:17:45,299 --> 02:17:43,420
highlighter and drawn a huge V that

2843
02:17:48,839 --> 02:17:45,309
extended from one side of the horizon to

2844
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:48,849
the other with a smaller v-shape overtop

2845
02:17:56,370 --> 02:17:53,920
of it and it was well gliding very very

2846
02:17:58,200 --> 02:17:56,380
silently from right to left and I said

2847
02:18:00,089 --> 02:17:58,210
to the other guys I said I think there's

2848
02:18:02,400 --> 02:18:00,099
something wrong with my goggles I'm

2849
02:18:05,009 --> 02:18:02,410
seeing this weird v-shape and then I

2850
02:18:06,839 --> 02:18:05,019
hear this chorus of holy when everybody

2851
02:18:09,929 --> 02:18:06,849
turns their goggles and I realize no

2852
02:18:11,879 --> 02:18:09,939
we're all seeing this this was the

2853
02:18:13,650 --> 02:18:11,889
largest thing that I have ever seen in

2854
02:18:15,990 --> 02:18:13,660
the sky and you know the sky is pretty

2855
02:18:19,679 --> 02:18:16,000
darn big out here in the desert in

2856
02:18:21,360 --> 02:18:19,689
Nevada right and this thing it started

2857
02:18:24,060 --> 02:18:21,370
again at pretty much one side of the

2858
02:18:26,940 --> 02:18:24,070
horizon to my right and it took it

2859
02:18:30,089 --> 02:18:26,950
probably a few minutes to go right

2860
02:18:32,549 --> 02:18:30,099
across in front of us over our heads to

2861
02:18:35,370 --> 02:18:32,559
the left and disappear without so much

2862
02:18:39,780 --> 02:18:35,380
as a sound not a flashing light nothing

2863
02:18:43,830 --> 02:18:39,790
like that I'll never forget feeling so

2864
02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:43,840
small in my life like some kind of

2865
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:45,609
caveman you know staring up at this

2866
02:18:50,070 --> 02:18:48,399
thing as it went over unfortunately we

2867
02:18:52,349 --> 02:18:50,080
did not have any kind of recording

2868
02:18:53,849 --> 02:18:52,359
devices hooked up to the goggles and

2869
02:18:55,980 --> 02:18:53,859
we've been kicking ourselves for that

2870
02:18:58,259 --> 02:18:55,990
ever since because I've never seen that

2871
02:19:00,060 --> 02:18:58,269
same thing again going back to what we

2872
02:19:04,110 --> 02:19:00,070
were talking about earlier but we were

2873
02:19:05,610 --> 02:19:04,120
so pumped by this that we stayed up the

2874
02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:05,620
rest of the night we couldn't sleep just

2875
02:19:09,330 --> 02:19:07,210
talking about what we'd seen over and

2876
02:19:10,469 --> 02:19:09,340
over and over again and the next day you

2877
02:19:11,730 --> 02:19:10,479
know I got on the horn and I started

2878
02:19:14,190 --> 02:19:11,740
calling everybody I could think of

2879
02:19:16,669 --> 02:19:14,200
asking for possible explanations could

2880
02:19:19,830 --> 02:19:16,679
this have been some kind of you know my

2881
02:19:21,980 --> 02:19:19,840
migrating foul formation flying foul or

2882
02:19:25,860 --> 02:19:21,990
could this be some you know some kind of

2883
02:19:27,900 --> 02:19:25,870
military operation and nobody I talked

2884
02:19:29,280 --> 02:19:27,910
to had any idea what it was they they

2885
02:19:31,410 --> 02:19:29,290
said that there's it was the wrong time

2886
02:19:33,089 --> 02:19:31,420
of year for any type of formation of

2887
02:19:35,099 --> 02:19:33,099
birds or anything and it did look like

2888
02:19:39,719 --> 02:19:35,109
that anyhow because I've since seen them

2889
02:19:43,950 --> 02:19:39,729
and night vision so I feel that what I

2890
02:19:45,330 --> 02:19:43,960
saw could have been something man-made

2891
02:19:47,820 --> 02:19:45,340
but if so

2892
02:19:50,340 --> 02:19:47,830
it was the biggest most incredible

2893
02:19:52,770 --> 02:19:50,350
impressive man-made object I've ever

2894
02:19:55,440 --> 02:19:52,780
seen do you have any idea on the size of

2895
02:19:57,900 --> 02:19:55,450
it and you can answer that quickly but

2896
02:20:00,690 --> 02:19:57,910
the second what did you see without the

2897
02:20:02,610 --> 02:20:00,700
night vision as it went over well I

2898
02:20:05,670 --> 02:20:02,620
couldn't see anything right I get ice

2899
02:20:07,740 --> 02:20:05,680
right yeah so it was only visible within

2900
02:20:10,679 --> 02:20:07,750
the infrared realm the night-vision

2901
02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:10,689
goggles allow you to see Wow so that

2902
02:20:17,219 --> 02:20:13,450
also tells you something about it and we

2903
02:20:18,900 --> 02:20:17,229
know that nine times out of ten aircraft

2904
02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:18,910
especially something of that size has

2905
02:20:22,650 --> 02:20:20,290
got to have some kind of beacon or

2906
02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:22,660
flashing you know warning system on it

2907
02:20:29,370 --> 02:20:26,410
to to alert other aircraft so that was a

2908
02:20:31,050 --> 02:20:29,380
life-changing moment for me it was every

2909
02:20:35,310 --> 02:20:31,060
time I go out I look for that same thing

2910
02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:35,320
I know you do how big was it well you

2911
02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:36,310
know that's the problem when you're

2912
02:20:41,010 --> 02:20:38,770
looking at things like that what I can

2913
02:20:44,639 --> 02:20:41,020
tell you is from my point of view it

2914
02:20:48,450 --> 02:20:44,649
took up the entire sky but I have no

2915
02:20:49,860 --> 02:20:48,460
honest way of gauging that because you

2916
02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:49,870
know at night when you're looking at

2917
02:20:54,540 --> 02:20:52,930
something through some goggles there's

2918
02:20:57,420 --> 02:20:54,550
nothing else in the sky that you can

2919
02:20:59,160 --> 02:20:57,430
really compare it to so I don't know to

2920
02:21:03,469 --> 02:20:59,170
be honest with you but it was it was

2921
02:21:07,250 --> 02:21:03,479
certainly a behemoth and it certainly

2922
02:21:10,170 --> 02:21:07,260
parallels what was seen over Phoenix

2923
02:21:12,810 --> 02:21:10,180
it's very similar to that you know the

2924
02:21:16,889 --> 02:21:12,820
the Phoenix lights appeared instead to

2925
02:21:20,010 --> 02:21:16,899
be sort of a series of of lights that

2926
02:21:23,460 --> 02:21:20,020
were in a v-shaped or triangular kind of

2927
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:23,470
formation right and this didn't seem to

2928
02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:28,090
be a series of dots that were that I was

2929
02:21:33,900 --> 02:21:30,399
mentally connecting this actually seemed

2930
02:21:36,870 --> 02:21:33,910
to be a linear v-shape man that is crazy

2931
02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:36,880
what a great sighting right oh yeah yeah

2932
02:21:42,450 --> 02:21:40,330
it was um it was immediately for me a

2933
02:21:44,460 --> 02:21:42,460
hook for it for night vision because I

2934
02:21:46,980 --> 02:21:44,470
think that was the first time I'd really

2935
02:21:49,050 --> 02:21:46,990
gone out in the field and looked at the

2936
02:21:51,660 --> 02:21:49,060
sky at night through night vision and so

2937
02:21:55,020 --> 02:21:51,670
since then I've done that many times and

2938
02:21:58,500 --> 02:21:55,030
it's a staple of my my kit when I go out

2939
02:21:59,260 --> 02:21:58,510
at night and now I I've got my camera

2940
02:22:01,030 --> 02:21:59,270
hooked up

2941
02:22:03,580 --> 02:22:01,040
next time hopefully I'll be I'll be

2942
02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:03,590
better prepared for it now I will tell

2943
02:22:10,870 --> 02:22:09,050
you I'll tell you off of the air but we

2944
02:22:15,190 --> 02:22:10,880
have a really cool development coming

2945
02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:15,200
with the Jimmy Church version of night

2946
02:22:18,340 --> 02:22:17,690
vision and it'll be released in about a

2947
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:18,350
month

2948
02:22:23,680 --> 02:22:22,130
that will you're gonna love it

2949
02:22:25,390 --> 02:22:23,690
I'll tell you more about that later I

2950
02:22:28,690 --> 02:22:25,400
can't do it now because I don't want to

2951
02:22:31,450 --> 02:22:28,700
tip anybody else out and you know I

2952
02:22:34,030 --> 02:22:31,460
don't hear their manufacturers it's so

2953
02:22:40,660 --> 02:22:34,040
cool and I'll tell you about that later

2954
02:22:43,750 --> 02:22:40,670
now my thing is this I the when I go out

2955
02:22:47,020 --> 02:22:43,760
with and do sky watches and I'm using

2956
02:22:48,640 --> 02:22:47,030
night vision that there are those out

2957
02:22:51,460 --> 02:22:48,650
there that are listening to you and I

2958
02:22:56,170 --> 02:22:51,470
right now Joshua that have never done it

2959
02:22:58,840 --> 02:22:56,180
they don't quite have a grasp or concept

2960
02:23:00,790 --> 02:22:58,850
of what we are talking about and I'm

2961
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:00,800
sure that most of thinking that it's

2962
02:23:07,090 --> 02:23:04,010
easily explainable well you see stuff in

2963
02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:07,100
night vision that is moving out there

2964
02:23:13,390 --> 02:23:10,160
some of it low some of it high but it's

2965
02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:13,400
way beyond what we normally see with our

2966
02:23:18,700 --> 02:23:16,250
own eyes during the day aircraft

2967
02:23:22,210 --> 02:23:18,710
helicopters planes they all fly in a

2968
02:23:24,370 --> 02:23:22,220
certain fashion satellites and then you

2969
02:23:30,370 --> 02:23:24,380
see these things in night vision that

2970
02:23:34,300 --> 02:23:30,380
don't make any sense either Joshua it's

2971
02:23:36,460 --> 02:23:34,310
et or the government has crazy

2972
02:23:39,700 --> 02:23:36,470
technology that they are not telling us

2973
02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:39,710
about both situations to me are equally

2974
02:23:46,090 --> 02:23:42,530
frightening but there isn't a gray area

2975
02:23:48,400 --> 02:23:46,100
is there no no when you see something

2976
02:23:49,870 --> 02:23:48,410
like that yeah you you know that it's

2977
02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:49,880
one of the other and possibly a

2978
02:23:54,730 --> 02:23:53,810
combination of both and so if something

2979
02:23:58,960 --> 02:23:54,740
like that

2980
02:24:02,310 --> 02:23:58,970
what I saw was flying out in the middle

2981
02:24:06,370 --> 02:24:02,320
of nowhere over the Nevada desert then

2982
02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:06,380
and it was fairly close to to earth and

2983
02:24:12,461 --> 02:24:08,090
least I can tell you that because I was

2984
02:24:15,220 --> 02:24:12,471
able to look up and and see it very well

2985
02:24:17,321 --> 02:24:15,230
it does go back to this idea that maybe

2986
02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:17,331
that's the kind of stuff that the space

2987
02:24:21,161 --> 02:24:19,610
force is dealing with right right you

2988
02:24:24,301 --> 02:24:21,171
know that that things like that are

2989
02:24:26,770 --> 02:24:24,311
flying around up there and in space and

2990
02:24:29,470 --> 02:24:26,780
you know anytime you start trying to

2991
02:24:31,331 --> 02:24:29,480
question the history of NASA you get

2992
02:24:34,001 --> 02:24:31,341
very vicious people who come out of the

2993
02:24:35,531 --> 02:24:34,011
Woodworks and start attacking you and in

2994
02:24:37,871 --> 02:24:35,541
many cases they seem to be very

2995
02:24:40,841 --> 02:24:37,881
unreasonable even though they proclaim

2996
02:24:43,390 --> 02:24:40,851
to be scientists and skeptics and all

2997
02:24:46,121 --> 02:24:43,400
that and so sometimes you almost feel

2998
02:24:47,711 --> 02:24:46,131
like that there always has been some

2999
02:24:49,331 --> 02:24:47,721
force of people out there who are

3000
02:24:50,980 --> 02:24:49,341
protecting the secrets that may be

3001
02:24:54,401 --> 02:24:50,990
related to what we're up to in space

3002
02:25:00,611 --> 02:24:54,411
with the V that you saw were you able to

3003
02:25:02,861 --> 02:25:00,621
see anything about it any edges was it

3004
02:25:06,401 --> 02:25:02,871
flat on the edges was there you know

3005
02:25:11,011 --> 02:25:06,411
we're any windows anything you know was

3006
02:25:14,291 --> 02:25:11,021
there anything that you can describe no

3007
02:25:19,241 --> 02:25:14,301
there was nothing of any greater detail

3008
02:25:20,531 --> 02:25:19,251
than those two big black lines or

3009
02:25:22,751 --> 02:25:20,541
actually they were they were not ly

3010
02:25:24,071 --> 02:25:22,761
black they were they were coming through

3011
02:25:26,980 --> 02:25:24,081
their night vision they were glowing

3012
02:25:29,770 --> 02:25:26,990
green but these two big green lines

3013
02:25:32,081 --> 02:25:29,780
against the black sky with the smaller

3014
02:25:33,371 --> 02:25:32,091
green lines above it so you know I've

3015
02:25:35,111 --> 02:25:33,381
talked to people who've said that

3016
02:25:37,781 --> 02:25:35,121
they've seen what looks like a triangle

3017
02:25:41,801 --> 02:25:37,791
because when they look up the object

3018
02:25:44,230 --> 02:25:41,811
blocks out the stars what I saw didn't

3019
02:25:47,711 --> 02:25:44,240
appear to actually blot out the stars so

3020
02:25:51,761 --> 02:25:47,721
it may not have been something that had

3021
02:25:54,520 --> 02:25:51,771
some solid material in the middle it may

3022
02:25:59,381 --> 02:25:54,530
have just been a craft that was in and

3023
02:26:01,451 --> 02:25:59,391
of itself a giant wing D died when okay

3024
02:26:05,441 --> 02:26:01,461
wait a minute here that's interesting

3025
02:26:07,901 --> 02:26:05,451
are you saying as it passed by it didn't

3026
02:26:10,241 --> 02:26:07,911
block up the stars in back of it that

3027
02:26:13,361 --> 02:26:10,251
you could still see the stars through

3028
02:26:15,430 --> 02:26:13,371
the craft that's right that's right and

3029
02:26:17,171 --> 02:26:15,440
of course there are people who have

3030
02:26:19,261 --> 02:26:17,181
wondered if this could also be the

3031
02:26:23,711 --> 02:26:19,271
product of some kind of invisibility

3032
02:26:25,599 --> 02:26:23,721
cloak which is certainly not hard to to

3033
02:26:29,139 --> 02:26:25,609
understand

3034
02:26:31,540 --> 02:26:29,149
I mean I even we have aircraft that will

3035
02:26:34,090 --> 02:26:31,550
produce an invisibility cloak by taking

3036
02:26:36,160 --> 02:26:34,100
images from the top of the craft and

3037
02:26:37,870 --> 02:26:36,170
rejecting them to the bottom right right

3038
02:26:40,210 --> 02:26:37,880
and then and then of course it with the

3039
02:26:43,719 --> 02:26:40,220
USS Nimitz report that came out they

3040
02:26:46,450 --> 02:26:43,729
talked about seeing this craft go

3041
02:26:48,340 --> 02:26:46,460
invisible at various times and they

3042
02:26:49,929 --> 02:26:48,350
could tell it was there because it was

3043
02:26:52,900 --> 02:26:49,939
still producing some kind of disruption

3044
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:52,910
on the water below that optically it

3045
02:26:56,830 --> 02:26:54,800
would disappear from their vantage point

3046
02:26:58,690 --> 02:26:56,840
and so either I could have been looking

3047
02:27:03,370 --> 02:26:58,700
at a giant craft that was a mainly

3048
02:27:05,320 --> 02:27:03,380
cloaked so that it looked to be a sort

3049
02:27:09,190 --> 02:27:05,330
of more or less invisible especially to

3050
02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:09,200
the naked eye or it could simply be that

3051
02:27:14,410 --> 02:27:12,290
the craft itself was a huge v-shape that

3052
02:27:19,330 --> 02:27:14,420
that's a pretty incredible sighting

3053
02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:19,340
that's wow and your friend she had three

3054
02:27:27,400 --> 02:27:23,770
friends were your friends skeptics you

3055
02:27:31,389 --> 02:27:27,410
know what were they UFO enthusiasts and

3056
02:27:36,099 --> 02:27:31,399
how did it change them well they were

3057
02:27:37,870 --> 02:27:36,109
certainly interested in UFOs but at that

3058
02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:37,880
time we were all sort of learning

3059
02:27:41,290 --> 02:27:39,439
together whether or not there was

3060
02:27:42,639 --> 02:27:41,300
something to this right I mean though

3061
02:27:44,320 --> 02:27:42,649
that was right around the time when

3062
02:27:48,099 --> 02:27:44,330
people were starting to get out and and

3063
02:27:50,800 --> 02:27:48,109
then try this more frequently and so we

3064
02:27:53,260 --> 02:27:50,810
were we were reserving judgment and but

3065
02:27:56,559 --> 02:27:53,270
at that time I mean we both or we'd all

3066
02:27:58,570 --> 02:27:56,569
seen you know odd little lights darting

3067
02:28:01,480 --> 02:27:58,580
around in the sky right after sunset and

3068
02:28:04,269 --> 02:28:01,490
that kind of thing but as far as I know

3069
02:28:07,540 --> 02:28:04,279
none of us I've ever seen before nor

3070
02:28:11,019 --> 02:28:07,550
sense anything like that flying over and

3071
02:28:11,620 --> 02:28:11,029
so that was a life altering moment for

3072
02:28:13,840 --> 02:28:11,630
all of us

3073
02:28:17,889 --> 02:28:13,850
now one last question before I let you

3074
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:17,899
go let's go back to the time warp did

3075
02:28:25,349 --> 02:28:22,010
you feel did you feel anything did you

3076
02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:25,359
feel physically any different when you

3077
02:28:32,590 --> 02:28:31,250
measured the 20 microseconds no I didn't

3078
02:28:38,730 --> 02:28:32,600
feel any different

3079
02:28:41,650 --> 02:28:38,740
know if anything I was just focused on

3080
02:28:43,360 --> 02:28:41,660
looking at the meter who knows maybe if

3081
02:28:45,540 --> 02:28:43,370
I could go back and do it over again I

3082
02:28:48,370 --> 02:28:45,550
would look up at my surroundings and see

3083
02:28:53,890 --> 02:28:48,380
if something appeared to change or

3084
02:28:55,270 --> 02:28:53,900
distort a little bit but we were

3085
02:28:58,750 --> 02:28:55,280
videotaping and we didn't capture

3086
02:29:00,520 --> 02:28:58,760
anything like that so yeah I mean I feel

3087
02:29:04,631 --> 02:29:00,530
like that if if we are encountering

3088
02:29:07,170 --> 02:29:04,641
these sorts of flickering waving sort of

3089
02:29:09,551 --> 02:29:07,180
time anomalies on a pretty regular basis

3090
02:29:13,810 --> 02:29:09,561
then we are we're not at all aware of it

3091
02:29:15,670 --> 02:29:13,820
it's unless you have something like the

3092
02:29:17,110 --> 02:29:15,680
DejaVu experience or something more

3093
02:29:19,420 --> 02:29:17,120
extreme like that you're looking back

3094
02:29:23,830 --> 02:29:19,430
and time but that doesn't happen very

3095
02:29:27,070 --> 02:29:23,840
often is Heath gonna sell these the DT

3096
02:29:29,680 --> 02:29:27,080
meter yes yes

3097
02:29:32,591 --> 02:29:29,690
Ronald Heath already has at least two or

3098
02:29:36,460 --> 02:29:32,601
three of them on eBay and so if you go

3099
02:29:40,150 --> 02:29:36,470
to I think his website is just DT meter

3100
02:29:41,350 --> 02:29:40,160
com I don't remember if there's a hyphen

3101
02:29:44,051 --> 02:29:41,360
in there and not worry if you just go to

3102
02:29:46,270 --> 02:29:44,061
Joshua P Warren comm and click the link

3103
02:29:48,910 --> 02:29:46,280
at the top then you'll see all kinds of

3104
02:29:50,680 --> 02:29:48,920
interesting supplementary links there to

3105
02:29:52,540 --> 02:29:50,690
the material that I put together in my

3106
02:29:55,570 --> 02:29:52,550
presentation you'll be able to see a

3107
02:29:57,280 --> 02:29:55,580
direct link to the UFO footage and to

3108
02:30:00,940 --> 02:29:57,290
his meter where you can read all about

3109
02:30:03,730 --> 02:30:00,950
it and send him questions but I hope

3110
02:30:05,620 --> 02:30:03,740
that people all over the world will

3111
02:30:08,680 --> 02:30:05,630
start taking the initiative to do what I

3112
02:30:09,761 --> 02:30:08,690
a just did I have no vested interest in

3113
02:30:11,770 --> 02:30:09,771
him selling this

3114
02:30:13,360 --> 02:30:11,780
I have never discussed any kind of an

3115
02:30:15,580 --> 02:30:13,370
arrangement I don't get a cut of it

3116
02:30:17,591 --> 02:30:15,590
there's never been anything like that so

3117
02:30:20,020 --> 02:30:17,601
I'm not saying this is some kind of a

3118
02:30:24,640 --> 02:30:20,030
marketing effort no I want to buy one

3119
02:30:29,801 --> 02:30:24,650
his work with this okay I'm here there

3120
02:30:32,890 --> 02:30:29,811
it is yes it is DT meter comm and in the

3121
02:30:35,500 --> 02:30:32,900
Las Vegas a video UFO footage is there

3122
02:30:37,480 --> 02:30:35,510
too as well everybody right at the top

3123
02:30:40,301 --> 02:30:37,490
just click on Joshua's links over to

3124
02:30:46,060 --> 02:30:40,311
Peter Thomas Joshua will be Warren calm

3125
02:30:49,220 --> 02:30:46,070
and at the top of the page it it's how

3126
02:30:51,791 --> 02:30:49,230
do you update

3127
02:30:54,230 --> 02:30:51,801
how do you how do you have it worded

3128
02:30:56,810 --> 02:30:54,240
refresh your browser or something and

3129
02:30:59,470 --> 02:30:56,820
you'll click the link at the top yeah a

3130
02:31:03,831 --> 02:30:59,480
home page it was right there

3131
02:31:06,530 --> 02:31:03,841
but anyway Joshua Pete warned calm I got

3132
02:31:08,661 --> 02:31:06,540
to it somehow because I'm actually on

3133
02:31:11,001 --> 02:31:08,671
the page here as well and down at the

3134
02:31:14,451 --> 02:31:11,011
bottom is titi meter calm thank you so

3135
02:31:16,791 --> 02:31:14,461
much Joshua busy day for you and I can

3136
02:31:18,291 --> 02:31:16,801
only imagine what the days and weeks

3137
02:31:20,930 --> 02:31:18,301
ahead are gonna be for you but

3138
02:31:23,541 --> 02:31:20,940
congratulations an absolutely stunning

3139
02:31:25,131 --> 02:31:23,551
discovery thank you so much well I I

3140
02:31:27,291 --> 02:31:25,141
could not be more delighted than my

3141
02:31:29,150 --> 02:31:27,301
voice somehow held out so it's always a

3142
02:31:30,591 --> 02:31:29,160
pleasure talking with you Jimmy thank

3143
02:31:32,631 --> 02:31:30,601
you so much for having me on the show

3144
02:31:35,511 --> 02:31:32,641
this special day and we'll keep each

3145
02:31:37,970 --> 02:31:35,521
other updated on now our mutual progress

3146
02:31:41,440 --> 02:31:37,980
thank you so much Joshua be safe out

3147
02:31:44,961 --> 02:31:41,450
there my friend okay you too Joshua P

3148
02:31:47,320 --> 02:31:44,971
Warren just go to Joshua P Warren comm

3149
02:31:49,610 --> 02:31:47,330
and all the links are right there

3150
02:31:51,320 --> 02:31:49,620
absolutely fascinating video that goes

3151
02:31:54,801 --> 02:31:51,330
along with the article too as well

3152
02:31:57,980 --> 02:31:54,811
happy world UFO day everybody Joshua P

3153
02:32:00,650 --> 02:31:57,990
Warren Joshua P Warren calm I'm gonna

3154
02:32:01,761 --> 02:32:00,660
open up the phone lines and talk to all

3155
02:32:03,711 --> 02:32:01,771
of you next

3156
02:32:10,830 --> 02:32:03,721
this is fade to black I'm your Jimmy

3157
02:32:21,540 --> 02:32:19,260
[Music]

3158
02:32:25,090 --> 02:32:21,550
[Applause]

3159
02:32:27,519 --> 02:32:25,100
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3160
02:32:32,920 --> 02:32:27,529
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3161
02:32:36,069 --> 02:32:32,930
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3162
02:32:37,980 --> 02:32:36,079
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3163
02:32:40,900 --> 02:32:37,990
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3164
02:32:43,950 --> 02:32:40,910
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3165
02:32:48,220 --> 02:32:43,960
[Applause]

3166
02:32:50,110 --> 02:32:48,230
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3167
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JC our Jimmy shirts radiojohn yeah

3240
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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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opened up the phone lines Man River Moon

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coffee what a great conversation with

3247
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Joshua on this world UFO day and so many

3248
02:36:52,670 --> 02:36:51,060
things to talk about here so you know

3249
02:36:53,900 --> 02:36:52,680
and and talking about night vision that

3250
02:36:58,599 --> 02:36:53,910
sighting that he had that's pretty

3251
02:37:03,740 --> 02:36:58,609
amazing and it didn't repeat I find that

3252
02:37:07,849 --> 02:37:03,750
so interesting I things that I have seen

3253
02:37:10,099 --> 02:37:07,859
with night vision some are similar some

3254
02:37:12,590 --> 02:37:10,109
are different but I don't think I've

3255
02:37:16,250 --> 02:37:12,600
seen the same thing twice and I find

3256
02:37:19,969 --> 02:37:16,260
that very very compelling through my own

3257
02:37:23,090 --> 02:37:19,979
experience as well and the Fermi paradox

3258
02:37:26,840 --> 02:37:23,100
a part of the conversation I do want to

3259
02:37:28,660 --> 02:37:26,850
discuss this with all of you what are

3260
02:37:32,780 --> 02:37:28,670
your thoughts on the Fermi paradox

3261
02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:32,790
because there are which is this the

3262
02:37:40,330 --> 02:37:38,010
Fermi paradox is is very simple given

3263
02:37:43,639 --> 02:37:40,340
the math given what we know today about

3264
02:37:48,710 --> 02:37:43,649
the amount of Suns and planets in our

3265
02:37:51,590 --> 02:37:48,720
stars in our own galaxy and and how

3266
02:37:56,330 --> 02:37:51,600
large those numbers are potentially we

3267
02:37:59,210 --> 02:37:56,340
are talking about you know billions of

3268
02:38:02,630 --> 02:37:59,220
planets and you start to break that down

3269
02:38:04,490 --> 02:38:02,640
and the amount of life and intelligent

3270
02:38:09,070 --> 02:38:04,500
civilizations that should be out there

3271
02:38:14,599 --> 02:38:09,080
is incredible so why aren't they here

3272
02:38:17,120 --> 02:38:14,609
okay now the answers to that are well of

3273
02:38:19,940 --> 02:38:17,130
course they are here and then it goes

3274
02:38:22,490 --> 02:38:19,950
back further and further and you can

3275
02:38:24,980 --> 02:38:22,500
peel back many layers here because every

3276
02:38:29,599 --> 02:38:24,990
question that you ask there are multiple

3277
02:38:30,770 --> 02:38:29,609
answers one of the ways to look at this

3278
02:38:35,720 --> 02:38:30,780
is is

3279
02:38:38,570 --> 02:38:35,730
a very simple one the the intelligence

3280
02:38:40,940 --> 02:38:38,580
out there the cultures the civilizations

3281
02:38:44,511 --> 02:38:40,950
that are occupying all of these planets

3282
02:38:48,711 --> 02:38:44,521
of course they know that we are here the

3283
02:38:52,310 --> 02:38:48,721
way that they probably communicate with

3284
02:38:58,720 --> 02:38:52,320
each other as they have discovered

3285
02:39:05,810 --> 02:39:03,440
one intelligent alien race would have

3286
02:39:07,881 --> 02:39:05,820
for another one is hey who else have you

3287
02:39:10,160 --> 02:39:07,891
made contact with well there's another

3288
02:39:13,070 --> 02:39:10,170
planet over here there's something else

3289
02:39:15,650 --> 02:39:13,080
going on over here great right and they

3290
02:39:17,240 --> 02:39:15,660
go and now they've got this way of

3291
02:39:21,740 --> 02:39:17,250
communicating with each other that they

3292
02:39:24,350 --> 02:39:21,750
understand and it could be won at the

3293
02:39:26,480 --> 02:39:24,360
speed of light that communication - it

3294
02:39:29,780 --> 02:39:26,490
could be faster than the speed of light

3295
02:39:33,080 --> 02:39:29,790
again this is technology that we simply

3296
02:39:37,220 --> 02:39:33,090
don't understand here the other part of

3297
02:39:39,830 --> 02:39:37,230
it is and they are all well aware of

3298
02:39:42,680 --> 02:39:39,840
what's going on here on this planet and

3299
02:39:46,280 --> 02:39:42,690
our level of intelligence and the other

3300
02:39:48,820 --> 02:39:46,290
part again this gets very complex very

3301
02:39:50,990 --> 02:39:48,830
quick and we can continue to ask

3302
02:39:57,140 --> 02:39:51,000
questions and try to figure out those

3303
02:40:00,890 --> 02:39:57,150
answers is is this we have not visited

3304
02:40:04,520 --> 02:40:00,900
another star we have not done that yet

3305
02:40:09,290 --> 02:40:04,530
and they understand that of course they

3306
02:40:12,171 --> 02:40:09,300
would we're not part of the culture that

3307
02:40:17,631 --> 02:40:12,181
is going on out there and it has to

3308
02:40:24,520 --> 02:40:17,641
exist that way right now and then there

3309
02:40:29,910 --> 02:40:24,530
is something very simple speech speech

3310
02:40:36,050 --> 02:40:29,920
we talk with our mouths okay we

3311
02:40:41,929 --> 02:40:36,060
with our mouth another advanced

3312
02:40:47,700 --> 02:40:41,939
civilization out there would they speak

3313
02:40:50,910 --> 02:40:47,710
verbally right probably not I would

3314
02:40:56,820 --> 02:40:50,920
think so the concept of that type of

3315
02:40:59,730 --> 02:40:56,830
communication it is very very primitive

3316
02:41:03,719 --> 02:40:59,740
to that maybe they did it once at one

3317
02:41:07,440 --> 02:41:03,729
point but I'm not so sure that us here

3318
02:41:11,700 --> 02:41:07,450
humans in 10,000 years are gonna use

3319
02:41:17,010 --> 02:41:11,710
speech would we use speech would we

3320
02:41:25,050 --> 02:41:17,020
laugh I don't think that we would right

3321
02:41:28,110 --> 02:41:25,060
so now et is here in front of you and

3322
02:41:31,740 --> 02:41:28,120
you expect them to open their mouths and

3323
02:41:35,790 --> 02:41:31,750
talk I'm not sure that they would have

3324
02:41:38,610 --> 02:41:35,800
that capability all right so going back

3325
02:41:41,790 --> 02:41:38,620
to the Fermi paradox why why aren't they

3326
02:41:44,580 --> 02:41:41,800
communicating with us in the-- that's

3327
02:41:49,490 --> 02:41:44,590
one reason and another reason which

3328
02:41:54,210 --> 02:41:49,500
again is very simple in its concept we

3329
02:41:58,590 --> 02:41:54,220
through conventional ways analog ways

3330
02:42:00,960 --> 02:41:58,600
used radio waves for television

3331
02:42:02,820 --> 02:42:00,970
broadcast and radio broadcasts around

3332
02:42:04,710 --> 02:42:02,830
this planet and that's what has been

3333
02:42:07,170 --> 02:42:04,720
beamed out there at the speed of light

3334
02:42:08,730 --> 02:42:07,180
right very weak signals but they're

3335
02:42:14,040 --> 02:42:08,740
there and they're there for people to

3336
02:42:18,030 --> 02:42:14,050
other cultures to pick up if they know

3337
02:42:22,800 --> 02:42:18,040
what they're listening for or searching

3338
02:42:28,530 --> 02:42:22,810
for to them that type of technology is

3339
02:42:30,990 --> 02:42:28,540
ancient today on this planet we still

3340
02:42:33,750 --> 02:42:31,000
use it but we use it less and less and

3341
02:42:36,780 --> 02:42:33,760
less and less right

3342
02:42:40,200 --> 02:42:36,790
we've got microwaves we've got satellite

3343
02:42:42,700 --> 02:42:40,210
transmissions and we have Direct TV and

3344
02:42:46,270 --> 02:42:42,710
we have the Internet and that's

3345
02:42:48,190 --> 02:42:46,280
different way of beaming our news and

3346
02:42:50,290 --> 02:42:48,200
entertainment around this planet it's

3347
02:42:53,200 --> 02:42:50,300
not necessarily although we still use

3348
02:42:56,140 --> 02:42:53,210
radio but certainly television signals

3349
02:42:59,350 --> 02:42:56,150
are less and less and less and less and

3350
02:43:02,260 --> 02:42:59,360
less and less so less of that is being

3351
02:43:05,800 --> 02:43:02,270
broadcast out and so my point being that

3352
02:43:10,300 --> 02:43:05,810
we have only used that technology for a

3353
02:43:12,670 --> 02:43:10,310
very short period of time less than a

3354
02:43:18,600 --> 02:43:12,680
hundred years there are a hundred years

3355
02:43:25,840 --> 02:43:18,610
okay so give it a buck 20 that's it and

3356
02:43:28,180 --> 02:43:25,850
going back out to ET out there ET now

3357
02:43:29,020 --> 02:43:28,190
listen to how I am trying to explain

3358
02:43:35,969 --> 02:43:29,030
this

3359
02:43:40,630 --> 02:43:35,979
if ET is a thousand light years away and

3360
02:43:44,950 --> 02:43:40,640
they were beaming a thousand years ago

3361
02:43:49,330 --> 02:43:44,960
with radio waves well today right and

3362
02:43:50,920 --> 02:43:49,340
and so the other nine hundred light

3363
02:43:55,360 --> 02:43:50,930
years would be with a different

3364
02:43:58,150 --> 02:43:55,370
technology think about that for a second

3365
02:44:01,510 --> 02:43:58,160
and if you stretch it out to a billion

3366
02:44:06,910 --> 02:44:01,520
years a billion light years and they've

3367
02:44:09,940 --> 02:44:06,920
nine hundred and ninety million years of

3368
02:44:12,670 --> 02:44:09,950
that as certainly light years of that we

3369
02:44:15,340 --> 02:44:12,680
would have missed it because we weren't

3370
02:44:20,800 --> 02:44:15,350
around that long ago and it wouldn't be

3371
02:44:22,510 --> 02:44:20,810
here to us yet so the Fermi paradox kind

3372
02:44:24,640 --> 02:44:22,520
of goes out the window

3373
02:44:26,650 --> 02:44:24,650
the more that you look at each one of

3374
02:44:28,830 --> 02:44:26,660
these I can sit here and break down

3375
02:44:33,100 --> 02:44:28,840
every single one of these questions and

3376
02:44:36,820 --> 02:44:33,110
answer why we haven't heard anything yet

3377
02:44:38,980 --> 02:44:36,830
and and and today the technology now

3378
02:44:42,250 --> 02:44:38,990
that we have the ability to listen and

3379
02:44:47,950 --> 02:44:42,260
we have the ability to scan the universe

3380
02:44:50,500 --> 02:44:47,960
and outside of our own galaxy that we

3381
02:44:53,530 --> 02:44:50,510
are looking for things that probably

3382
02:44:56,240 --> 02:44:53,540
aren't used and the things that we are

3383
02:45:00,280 --> 02:44:56,250
able to listen for

3384
02:45:04,760 --> 02:45:00,290
haven't been used for very long time on

3385
02:45:06,740 --> 02:45:04,770
the et side of things so you have to

3386
02:45:10,070 --> 02:45:06,750
think about what when it comes to the

3387
02:45:15,760 --> 02:45:10,080
Fermi paradox and how we we look at this

3388
02:45:18,320 --> 02:45:15,770
I'm not so sure that it actually applies

3389
02:45:20,720 --> 02:45:18,330
because I know what I've seen in the

3390
02:45:22,670 --> 02:45:20,730
skies I know that we're being visited I

3391
02:45:24,500 --> 02:45:22,680
know that there there are things here I

3392
02:45:28,520 --> 02:45:24,510
know this as a fact I don't need any

3393
02:45:31,250 --> 02:45:28,530
proof of that but there there's some of

3394
02:45:33,230 --> 02:45:31,260
the answers some of the answers it gets

3395
02:45:34,700 --> 02:45:33,240
so deep all right let's go to the phones

3396
02:45:38,270 --> 02:45:34,710
hi you're live on fade to black who's

3397
02:45:43,070 --> 02:45:42,170
hi Karen from Seattle how are you thank

3398
02:45:48,860 --> 02:45:43,080
you

3399
02:45:50,540 --> 02:45:48,870
it's a happy world UFO day it's a lovely

3400
02:45:54,010 --> 02:45:50,550
day to have that what a great

3401
02:45:56,030 --> 02:45:54,020
conversation with Joshua tonight amazing

3402
02:45:56,840 --> 02:45:56,040
yeah that was pretty that was pretty

3403
02:46:00,770 --> 02:45:56,850
astounding

3404
02:46:03,620 --> 02:46:00,780
what's on your mind well I was you know

3405
02:46:08,210 --> 02:46:03,630
just the whole conversation and and the

3406
02:46:11,090 --> 02:46:08,220
Fermi paradox I was just thinking about

3407
02:46:12,920 --> 02:46:11,100
you know if there are imagine if if

3408
02:46:16,490 --> 02:46:12,930
you're a little kid and you're growing

3409
02:46:20,050 --> 02:46:16,500
up in the middle of the Sahara Desert

3410
02:46:23,510 --> 02:46:20,060
mm-hmm right you're you're a Bedouin and

3411
02:46:25,970 --> 02:46:23,520
somebody tells you about these fish at

3412
02:46:29,660 --> 02:46:25,980
the bottom of the ocean that have these

3413
02:46:33,620 --> 02:46:29,670
huge teeth and they have a glowing worm

3414
02:46:37,550 --> 02:46:33,630
on their nose are you gonna be able to

3415
02:46:41,270 --> 02:46:37,560
understand that it doesn't mean that

3416
02:46:45,020 --> 02:46:41,280
it's not real you're just not in a place

3417
02:46:50,930 --> 02:46:45,030
you're not in a culture that can grasp

3418
02:46:52,970 --> 02:46:50,940
that kind of other environment world if

3419
02:46:56,090 --> 02:46:52,980
you haven't experienced it you wouldn't

3420
02:46:58,670 --> 02:46:56,100
have any any way of even dealing with it

3421
02:47:01,010 --> 02:46:58,680
you wouldn't know that you wouldn't know

3422
02:47:03,740 --> 02:47:01,020
you wouldn't be mostly if you like

3423
02:47:05,030 --> 02:47:03,750
what's a fish cuz you're you know you're

3424
02:47:09,469 --> 02:47:05,040
surrounded by sand dunes and you're

3425
02:47:14,120 --> 02:47:09,479
eatin goat you don't know from fish

3426
02:47:16,370 --> 02:47:14,130
there is there are reports Rita and I

3427
02:47:21,170 --> 02:47:16,380
were talking about this last week when

3428
02:47:23,989 --> 02:47:21,180
the Mayans had first seen the Spanish

3429
02:47:26,330 --> 02:47:23,999
ships right sitting off in the distance

3430
02:47:30,170 --> 02:47:26,340
before they came to shore that they

3431
02:47:35,450 --> 02:47:30,180
actually this although the ships were

3432
02:47:36,920 --> 02:47:35,460
there they didn't see them okay they

3433
02:47:39,380 --> 02:47:36,930
were there they wore their brains

3434
02:47:42,139 --> 02:47:39,390
couldn't process the process they were

3435
02:47:44,719 --> 02:47:42,149
things they could not process that they

3436
02:47:48,080 --> 02:47:44,729
did not although they were there and it

3437
02:47:51,590 --> 02:47:48,090
took like three days right until they

3438
02:47:55,899 --> 02:47:51,600
even started to and then the brain

3439
02:47:59,779 --> 02:47:55,909
started to process right and that's I

3440
02:48:02,359 --> 02:47:59,789
can't imagine going through that kind of

3441
02:48:07,370 --> 02:48:02,369
heart attack to see something that you

3442
02:48:09,439 --> 02:48:07,380
have never so yeah I am sure that your

3443
02:48:12,529 --> 02:48:09,449
system in your brain would go through

3444
02:48:15,109 --> 02:48:12,539
that kind of shock where that's it they

3445
02:48:21,109 --> 02:48:15,119
although the ships are there physically

3446
02:48:22,309 --> 02:48:21,119
there they are not there right and I'm

3447
02:48:24,200 --> 02:48:22,319
just gonna I'm just going to toss a

3448
02:48:25,700 --> 02:48:24,210
little Bible at you here I'm not going

3449
02:48:27,290 --> 02:48:25,710
to get into religious discussions just

3450
02:48:29,840 --> 02:48:27,300
going to give you an example bring it

3451
02:48:33,080 --> 02:48:29,850
the Old Testament in the Old Testament

3452
02:48:35,960 --> 02:48:33,090
Elijah's walking through the desert he's

3453
02:48:39,469 --> 02:48:35,970
in trouble with the locals as per usual

3454
02:48:41,300 --> 02:48:39,479
he's got an assistant with him the

3455
02:48:43,760 --> 02:48:41,310
assistants freaking out because they're

3456
02:48:46,130 --> 02:48:43,770
about to get killed from these guys that

3457
02:48:50,059 --> 02:48:46,140
are following them and Elijah prays and

3458
02:48:55,069 --> 02:48:50,069
he said God opened me I opened his eyes

3459
02:48:58,340 --> 02:48:55,079
so that he might see and this huge Vista

3460
02:49:00,769 --> 02:48:58,350
opens before him with all these because

3461
02:49:05,719 --> 02:49:00,779
of men jealousies but whatever um

3462
02:49:09,859 --> 02:49:05,729
clad in gold Chariots of Fire tens and

3463
02:49:13,130 --> 02:49:09,869
tens and tens and tens of thousands and

3464
02:49:15,469 --> 02:49:13,140
then the vision goes away and the

3465
02:49:17,809 --> 02:49:15,479
assistant turns to rush and goes yeah we

3466
02:49:21,380 --> 02:49:17,819
good we're good

3467
02:49:23,330 --> 02:49:21,390
they're gonna fight for us we're good so

3468
02:49:26,240 --> 02:49:23,340
you don't we

3469
02:49:31,760 --> 02:49:26,250
don't have mental capacity right now our

3470
02:49:33,770 --> 02:49:31,770
brains are not trained to see through

3471
02:49:37,040 --> 02:49:33,780
all the other realities that are in

3472
02:49:41,570 --> 02:49:37,050
there to see the big picture as it

3473
02:49:50,030 --> 02:49:41,580
worked we can't see it we can't grasp it

3474
02:49:54,170 --> 02:49:50,040
have you use night vision yet okay will

3475
02:49:55,700 --> 02:49:54,180
you just wait back to everything that

3476
02:49:59,480 --> 02:49:55,710
we're talking about right now and I'm

3477
02:50:03,560 --> 02:49:59,490
serious when I go outside at night now

3478
02:50:08,090 --> 02:50:03,570
my head is on a swivel it is I mean I'm

3479
02:50:11,560 --> 02:50:08,100
just like just imagining what is

3480
02:50:14,480 --> 02:50:11,570
actually going on I'm so disappointed in

3481
02:50:17,510 --> 02:50:14,490
Los Angeles in that I've seen a couple

3482
02:50:20,210 --> 02:50:17,520
of things here in LA I have but by and

3483
02:50:22,490 --> 02:50:20,220
large we have no stars right it's all

3484
02:50:26,120 --> 02:50:22,500
this light pollution you look up and you

3485
02:50:28,340 --> 02:50:26,130
go you know 50 70 miles a hundred miles

3486
02:50:30,650 --> 02:50:28,350
outside of Los Angeles to Joshua Tree

3487
02:50:32,330 --> 02:50:30,660
where there's no light pollution and you

3488
02:50:34,790 --> 02:50:32,340
look up and you see the you know the

3489
02:50:36,320 --> 02:50:34,800
Milky Way and you see the multi colors

3490
02:50:41,650 --> 02:50:36,330
you know you see the Reds and the blues

3491
02:50:44,300 --> 02:50:41,660
and this is a crazy 3d beautiful

3492
02:50:47,389 --> 02:50:44,310
experience that is going on you know up

3493
02:50:49,969 --> 02:50:47,399
in the skies and here in LA got like two

3494
02:50:55,780 --> 02:50:49,979
or three stars you know and I know it's

3495
02:50:59,360 --> 02:50:55,790
the same it's the same exact sky care

3496
02:51:00,710 --> 02:50:59,370
Hawkeye but now my head is on a swivel

3497
02:51:04,520 --> 02:51:00,720
because you go out there with night

3498
02:51:07,429 --> 02:51:04,530
vision and I can guarantee anybody

3499
02:51:10,070 --> 02:51:07,439
anybody go out with night vision one

3500
02:51:12,230 --> 02:51:10,080
time go out and look up and you will see

3501
02:51:14,480 --> 02:51:12,240
something and pull the night vision down

3502
02:51:17,120 --> 02:51:14,490
and look and it's not there and and so

3503
02:51:19,550 --> 02:51:17,130
in some cases it's it's even low you

3504
02:51:21,500 --> 02:51:19,560
know it's not up really high and then

3505
02:51:25,460 --> 02:51:21,510
pull the night vision down and look and

3506
02:51:28,099 --> 02:51:25,470
it's simply not there I love it I love

3507
02:51:29,360 --> 02:51:28,109
it so we just wait and it goes right

3508
02:51:32,990 --> 02:51:29,370
back to what we're talking about with

3509
02:51:35,889 --> 02:51:33,000
the Mayans or or Elijah out there that's

3510
02:51:38,200 --> 02:51:35,899
you just it it

3511
02:51:40,450 --> 02:51:38,210
it's a life-changing thing to go through

3512
02:51:41,920 --> 02:51:40,460
I can't wait for you to do it for the

3513
02:51:45,819 --> 02:51:41,930
first time are you going to Seoul tech

3514
02:51:48,809 --> 02:51:45,829
oh yeah yeah I'm registered on get my

3515
02:51:51,880 --> 02:51:48,819
camping spot I'm ready to go you wait

3516
02:51:54,849 --> 02:51:51,890
you wait I get you know that I've said

3517
02:51:57,309 --> 02:51:54,859
that so many times Karen there are no

3518
02:52:01,569 --> 02:51:57,319
guarantees be careful when you make a

3519
02:52:04,450 --> 02:52:01,579
guarantee well I'm guaranteeing that's a

3520
02:52:08,170 --> 02:52:04,460
guarantee that's where you want to take

3521
02:52:11,370 --> 02:52:08,180
your friend your loved one your family

3522
02:52:13,269 --> 02:52:11,380
member that's a skeptic or on the fence

3523
02:52:16,000 --> 02:52:13,279
you know that's what you want to do

3524
02:52:17,679 --> 02:52:16,010
let's just take him there something's

3525
02:52:21,309 --> 02:52:17,689
gonna happen and you're gonna get the

3526
02:52:23,580 --> 02:52:21,319
last laugh you're gonna enjoy here's the

3527
02:52:29,439 --> 02:52:23,590
great thing everybody in my family has

3528
02:52:33,280 --> 02:52:29,449
seen something when we usually we saw

3529
02:52:36,519 --> 02:52:33,290
them all together twice we were all

3530
02:52:39,569 --> 02:52:36,529
together and saw stuff oh that's so cool

3531
02:52:42,880 --> 02:52:39,579
and that you got to do that together now

3532
02:52:46,120 --> 02:52:42,890
we were talking earlier you know I've

3533
02:52:52,809 --> 02:52:46,130
got calls on hold you know what forget

3534
02:52:54,280 --> 02:52:52,819
them I'm talking to you is all right I

3535
02:52:59,740 --> 02:52:54,290
want to go back to the you know this

3536
02:53:03,880 --> 02:52:59,750
whole time warp thing there is and I'm

3537
02:53:05,769 --> 02:53:03,890
so happy that Joshua was able to capture

3538
02:53:09,700 --> 02:53:05,779
this and I'm serious I'm gonna I'm gonna

3539
02:53:10,990 --> 02:53:09,710
get one of these DT meters but we all

3540
02:53:11,830 --> 02:53:11,000
know that there's something going on

3541
02:53:15,460 --> 02:53:11,840
with this I

3542
02:53:17,859 --> 02:53:15,470
there's just weirdness like deja vu and

3543
02:53:21,099 --> 02:53:17,869
and other things but there is a movie

3544
02:53:26,219 --> 02:53:21,109
out that I watched last night with Rita

3545
02:53:28,389 --> 02:53:26,229
called the endless have you seen it yet

3546
02:53:31,599 --> 02:53:28,399
okay write that down

3547
02:53:35,859 --> 02:53:31,609
the endless okay

3548
02:53:42,609 --> 02:53:35,869
now I'm looking at it here I just looked

3549
02:53:44,920 --> 02:53:42,619
it up on Rotten Tomatoes 97% that that

3550
02:53:46,719 --> 02:53:44,930
that you don't get that on Rotten

3551
02:53:48,880 --> 02:53:46,729
Tomatoes I don't care who you are

3552
02:53:53,280 --> 02:53:48,890
right well

3553
02:53:57,030 --> 02:53:53,290
97% now it is it's exactly what not

3554
02:54:00,219 --> 02:53:57,040
pretty much exactly what Joshua P Warren

3555
02:54:02,769 --> 02:54:00,229
is is talking about what he experienced

3556
02:54:08,050 --> 02:54:02,779
out there in the desert I don't want to

3557
02:54:11,889 --> 02:54:08,060
give the movie away but it involves time

3558
02:54:15,309 --> 02:54:11,899
slips and the way that the movie is shot

3559
02:54:17,170 --> 02:54:15,319
independent film the directors Justin

3560
02:54:19,809 --> 02:54:17,180
and Erin who played themselves in the

3561
02:54:21,010 --> 02:54:19,819
movie by the way very clever they played

3562
02:54:24,070 --> 02:54:21,020
Justin and Erin

3563
02:54:25,149 --> 02:54:24,080
Justin Benson and Erin Moorhead are two

3564
02:54:28,660 --> 02:54:25,159
of the most gifted

3565
02:54:31,689 --> 02:54:28,670
I think Aaron wrote the film two of the

3566
02:54:35,290 --> 02:54:31,699
gift most gifted directors out there and

3567
02:54:40,630 --> 02:54:35,300
this movie is so well written and how it

3568
02:54:43,179 --> 02:54:40,640
deals with anomalies on the ground where

3569
02:54:46,899 --> 02:54:43,189
you are walking and how things can

3570
02:54:49,630 --> 02:54:46,909
change right that's it that's all I'm

3571
02:54:52,540 --> 02:54:49,640
going to say I'm only going that far I

3572
02:54:55,899 --> 02:54:52,550
don't want to ruin this for anybody out

3573
02:54:58,660 --> 02:54:55,909
there but it is so clever so well

3574
02:55:01,330 --> 02:54:58,670
written so well shot and so well acted

3575
02:55:03,040 --> 02:55:01,340
by everybody in it that it's it's

3576
02:55:08,469 --> 02:55:03,050
something that you can experience and

3577
02:55:11,410 --> 02:55:08,479
and not go man it's it's it's amateur

3578
02:55:14,830 --> 02:55:11,420
shot it's amateur written it's cool it's

3579
02:55:16,210 --> 02:55:14,840
clever but no it's got everything in it

3580
02:55:18,880 --> 02:55:16,220
that will just keep you from the

3581
02:55:22,630 --> 02:55:18,890
beginning to the end it's well shot it's

3582
02:55:25,240 --> 02:55:22,640
well written it's well edited it's

3583
02:55:27,969 --> 02:55:25,250
clever it's clever you need to see it

3584
02:55:31,750 --> 02:55:27,979
it's called the endless I think it was

3585
02:55:35,370 --> 02:55:31,760
released yesterday on the first if I'm

3586
02:55:39,099 --> 02:55:35,380
not mistaken did you try to go look at

3587
02:55:41,170 --> 02:55:39,109
the endless it's really really really

3588
02:55:42,510 --> 02:55:41,180
cool all right Karen that's all I got

3589
02:55:46,510 --> 02:55:42,520
anything else

3590
02:55:50,530 --> 02:55:46,520
well thank you so much the endless okay

3591
02:55:53,170 --> 02:55:50,540
now tomorrow on the show I expect

3592
02:55:54,790 --> 02:55:53,180
everybody listening to a star posting

3593
02:55:57,900 --> 02:55:54,800
and Twitter about how great that movie

3594
02:56:03,560 --> 02:56:00,180
Thank You Garrett enjoy the rest of

3595
02:56:07,250 --> 02:56:03,570
enjoy the rest of your world UFO day I

3596
02:56:11,310 --> 02:56:07,260
will you do great phone call right there

3597
02:56:13,350 --> 02:56:11,320
Karen up in Seattle let me get back over

3598
02:56:17,131 --> 02:56:13,360
here to Twitter yes okay everybody's

3599
02:56:22,080 --> 02:56:17,141
posting this now the endless this is a

3600
02:56:24,091 --> 02:56:22,090
movie you have got to see 100% back to

3601
02:56:25,860 --> 02:56:24,101
front read it was so funny last night

3602
02:56:27,690 --> 02:56:25,870
she goes I know what you're gonna talk

3603
02:56:29,670 --> 02:56:27,700
about tomorrow on the show well I saved

3604
02:56:34,350 --> 02:56:29,680
it till the end

3605
02:56:37,290 --> 02:56:34,360
this movie is incredible it it I don't

3606
02:56:38,341 --> 02:56:37,300
want to give it away okay I don't want

3607
02:56:43,350 --> 02:56:38,351
to I don't

3608
02:56:47,551 --> 02:56:43,360
it's I'm just gonna say that much it

3609
02:56:49,500 --> 02:56:47,561
deals with time slips and in fact that

3610
02:56:58,591 --> 02:56:49,510
may not even be the right way to put it

3611
02:57:01,160 --> 02:56:58,601
it's really really cool the the how do I

3612
02:57:03,270 --> 02:57:01,170
want to say this when I look at a film

3613
02:57:06,301 --> 02:57:03,280
okay when I look at a film and it

3614
02:57:07,680 --> 02:57:06,311
doesn't matter if it's a comedy dramatic

3615
02:57:10,320 --> 02:57:07,690
science fiction it doesn't matter

3616
02:57:13,950 --> 02:57:10,330
documentary it doesn't really matter for

3617
02:57:16,770 --> 02:57:13,960
me my tastes are so high and my

3618
02:57:18,930 --> 02:57:16,780
expectations I will stop a film in two

3619
02:57:26,120 --> 02:57:18,940
minutes and and move on to the next one

3620
02:57:29,520 --> 02:57:28,740
Gigi said speaking of films you've

3621
02:57:32,730 --> 02:57:29,530
recommended

3622
02:57:35,690 --> 02:57:32,740
I watched annihilation and man what an

3623
02:57:39,540 --> 02:57:35,700
interesting film yeah that's really cool

3624
02:57:42,450 --> 02:57:39,550
Corby waste just said I just bought a DT

3625
02:57:44,520 --> 02:57:42,460
meter differential time right meter and

3626
02:57:47,610 --> 02:57:44,530
there are only a very small limit

3627
02:57:51,841 --> 02:57:47,620
alright Corby wouldn't be going to the

3628
02:57:53,730 --> 02:57:51,851
desert my friend we got to test that we

3629
02:57:56,520 --> 02:57:53,740
got to test that thank you so much Corby

3630
02:57:58,920 --> 02:57:56,530
I can't wait I'm glad you're listening

3631
02:58:02,551 --> 02:57:58,930
to the show too as well it's Corby waste

3632
02:58:04,980 --> 02:58:02,561
of NASA yeah I can't wait to what your

3633
02:58:06,870 --> 02:58:04,990
friends and co-workers say about that

3634
02:58:08,820 --> 02:58:06,880
Corby but we've got to take that thing

3635
02:58:09,960 --> 02:58:08,830
out to the desert and go and test now

3636
02:58:12,389 --> 02:58:09,970
back to

3637
02:58:14,580 --> 02:58:12,399
ooh what I expect from a film I've only

3638
02:58:17,729 --> 02:58:14,590
got a couple of minutes if it isn't

3639
02:58:21,660 --> 02:58:17,739
visually stunning immediately out of the

3640
02:58:22,429 --> 02:58:21,670
gate I I can't focus it won't have my

3641
02:58:24,929 --> 02:58:22,439
attention

3642
02:58:26,969 --> 02:58:24,939
second and that's the cinematography

3643
02:58:31,139 --> 02:58:26,979
second I can tell right away with the

3644
02:58:34,019 --> 02:58:31,149
edits if it if it's artistic or not and

3645
02:58:35,400 --> 02:58:34,029
I can't last for two hours on a film if

3646
02:58:38,639 --> 02:58:35,410
it doesn't have those two things and

3647
02:58:41,309 --> 02:58:38,649
then next I will know immediately out of

3648
02:58:42,150 --> 02:58:41,319
the gate if the script is written

3649
02:58:44,670 --> 02:58:42,160
correctly

3650
02:58:50,550 --> 02:58:44,680
I mean written okay I don't I don't

3651
02:58:53,099 --> 02:58:50,560
expect you know no it just needs to be

3652
02:58:55,559 --> 02:58:53,109
cleverly written and I'll know that out

3653
02:58:58,860 --> 02:58:55,569
of the gate and the next thing is the

3654
02:59:02,130 --> 02:58:58,870
acting I don't care who the actors are

3655
02:59:05,070 --> 02:59:02,140
if they don't have to be Hollywood's

3656
02:59:08,580 --> 02:59:05,080
elite you just have to act correctly and

3657
02:59:10,019 --> 02:59:08,590
I we'll know in a few four short minutes

3658
02:59:13,620 --> 02:59:10,029
of the film if it has all of those

3659
02:59:17,420 --> 02:59:13,630
elements the endless is ten out of ten

3660
02:59:21,570 --> 02:59:17,430
out of ten out of ten it is that great

3661
02:59:24,150 --> 02:59:21,580
it's our great film great film highly

3662
02:59:26,340 --> 02:59:24,160
highly recommended and that's that's all

3663
02:59:28,500 --> 02:59:26,350
I'm gonna say the endless you need to

3664
02:59:31,440 --> 02:59:28,510
check it out and I would expect that

3665
02:59:34,170 --> 02:59:31,450
everybody listening to me right now is

3666
02:59:36,179 --> 02:59:34,180
going to go and check the film out okay

3667
02:59:38,219 --> 02:59:36,189
so go and do it I want all of your

3668
02:59:41,219 --> 02:59:38,229
comments we're not gonna have a fader

3669
02:59:43,380 --> 02:59:41,229
night this week we will next week but I

3670
02:59:45,960 --> 02:59:43,390
will be able to take your calls and I

3671
02:59:47,460 --> 02:59:45,970
want to hear what everybody has to say

3672
02:59:51,000 --> 02:59:47,470
and how they're gonna react to this film

3673
02:59:54,300 --> 02:59:51,010
it is absolutely amazing okay well

3674
02:59:57,389 --> 02:59:54,310
that's it now a happy world UFO day

3675
03:00:01,679 --> 02:59:57,399
everybody Joshua P Warren Joshua Warren

3676
03:00:04,139 --> 03:00:01,689
calm is the website the articles and all

3677
03:00:07,650 --> 03:00:04,149
of the coverage from Fox and Fox News

3678
03:00:10,290 --> 03:00:07,660
are over at Joshua P Warren comm the

3679
03:00:13,559 --> 03:00:10,300
video that was shot is there too as well

3680
03:00:17,040 --> 03:00:13,569
the highway UFO video and all of the

3681
03:00:18,570 --> 03:00:17,050
information about the D T meter I was

3682
03:00:21,210 --> 03:00:18,580
watching some of the comments here and

3683
03:00:22,011 --> 03:00:21,220
certainly from for Mark out in Australia

3684
03:00:25,640 --> 03:00:22,021
about house

3685
03:00:27,081 --> 03:00:25,650
small and insignificant 20 microseconds

3686
03:00:30,680 --> 03:00:27,091
is there's no question about that

3687
03:00:33,161 --> 03:00:30,690
the fact that it was measured is a big

3688
03:00:37,701 --> 03:00:33,171
big deal because there shouldn't be

3689
03:00:40,780 --> 03:00:37,711
anything at all and to have it go on

3690
03:00:44,331 --> 03:00:40,790
right there outside of Rachel Nevada an

3691
03:00:46,461 --> 03:00:44,341
area 51 with everything else that we

3692
03:00:49,400 --> 03:00:46,471
know about what goes on up there in the

3693
03:00:51,680 --> 03:00:49,410
desert okay

3694
03:00:54,921 --> 03:00:51,690
and now Corby's got himself a DT meter

3695
03:00:57,261 --> 03:00:54,931
he is now the most popular most popular

3696
03:01:00,371 --> 03:00:57,271
kid in school I cannot wait to go out

3697
03:01:02,541 --> 03:01:00,381
and check that up and put it to the test

3698
03:01:04,161 --> 03:01:02,551
for everybody else out there that's

3699
03:01:06,650 --> 03:01:04,171
listening to me

3700
03:01:09,201 --> 03:01:06,660
bearing optics you need to get yourself

3701
03:01:11,121 --> 03:01:09,211
some night-vision goggles click on the

3702
03:01:13,881 --> 03:01:11,131
banner over at Jimmy Trivette radio.com

3703
03:01:17,211 --> 03:01:13,891
go and visit bearing optics speak to

3704
03:01:18,711 --> 03:01:17,221
Alec Hoffman he is a fade or not if you

3705
03:01:20,480 --> 03:01:18,721
are on the fence you've been thinking

3706
03:01:23,690 --> 03:01:20,490
about it you need the advice you need to

3707
03:01:26,091 --> 03:01:23,700
know what to do speak to Alec Hoffman at

3708
03:01:27,650 --> 03:01:26,101
bearing optics all of the information

3709
03:01:30,921 --> 03:01:27,660
for that is over at Jimmy Turks radio

3710
03:01:33,711 --> 03:01:30,931
comm you're going up to e sette you want

3711
03:01:38,241 --> 03:01:33,721
to have your night vision with you on

3712
03:01:40,360 --> 03:01:38,251
that night okay it is the only way to go

3713
03:01:44,150 --> 03:01:40,370
with that tomorrow night on the show

3714
03:01:47,511 --> 03:01:44,160
Michael Lee Hill is here there are some

3715
03:01:50,780 --> 03:01:47,521
inky crop circles that have surfaced if

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you go to Michael Lee Hill dotnet he

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wrote up an article about it we will be

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discussing all of this tomorrow night on

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the show the photographs are amazing

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what is his analysis I'm gonna discuss

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